Do you reveal bounced manifested cards?

Asked by BlueScope 9 years ago

So, I manifest a card from the top of my library, so it enters the battlefield face-down. Then it gets returned to my hand by, let's say, Peel from Reality. Do I have to reveal it because one has to reveal all morphed cards in general that leave the battlefield, or do you get to keep it a secret because there's no question about the legality of your play (it doesn't matter whether the card has morph or not) ?

Thanks in advance!

Epochalyptik says... #1

The official rules are not yet out, so we don't know for sure. However, my inclination is to say that you don't reveal them because there's no restriction on their characteristics.

You have to reveal morph cards to prove they actually have morph. Manifest works differently; the cards are manifested, but they aren't the objects with the special ability.

January 12, 2015 5:58 p.m.

Drilnoth says... #2

Matt Tabak, the MTG Rules Manager, answered this back in December. You do have to reveal them.

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He's since clarified that this is to help avoid confusion and keep the rules consistent.

January 12, 2015 8:35 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #3

Found the current rule to support this:

707.9. If a face-down permanent moves from the battlefield to any other zone, its owner must reveal it to all players as he or she moves it. If a face-down spell moves from the stack to any zone other than the battlefield, its owner must reveal it to all players as he or she moves it. At the end of each game, all face-down permanents and spells must be revealed to all players.

It's interesting that this rule exists. I'm not really sure what the intent is. The question that Drilnoth posted makes it sound like the intent is to prove that the face-down objects are Magic cards, but you aren't forced to reveal your library at the end of a game or match to prove that you were using Magic cards.

January 12, 2015 8:53 p.m.

jpgcoleman says... #4

Epochalyptik it seems like the purpose of the rule is more specifically for morphs to ensure that a card played as a morph is not really a land or something.

February 10, 2015 11:32 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

@jpgcoleman: My point was that it's interesting that a rule exists to reveal all face-down objects rather than only those that were morphed. See my first post.

February 10, 2015 11:56 a.m.

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