Would Fog prevent deathtouch effects?
Asked by IAmKingTony 13 years ago
Say I use Lure on Glissa, the Traitor and swing her, then when all of my opponents creatures block her I drop a Fog to prevent the damage. Would the deathtouch effects still occur?
Yeah eze01 is right.
Deathtouch says that any amount of damage will be lethal. However Fog makes everything deal no damage at all (or, more accurately, prevents it all). If the damage has been prevented, then no damage has been dealt. If no damage is dealt, then the creatures wont die.
Oh but by the way... try out Lure and Engulfing Slagwurm and have fun with that.
November 17, 2011 5:47 a.m.
Lure + the slagwurm is such a rude combo. Those decorative teeth are on one of my favorite beaters.
November 17, 2011 10:12 a.m.
rckclimber777 says... #4
Deathtouch is described as any nonzero amount of damage is considered lethal. In this case Glissa does 0 damage because of fog and thus deathtouch does not work.
If however you use Safe Passage then glissa will be fine and your opponent's creatures will most likely die. Although I'm not sure why you would use fog when you use glissa and lure as glissa is almost guaranteed to kill 3 creatures no matter what their toughness.
November 17, 2011 11:53 a.m.
IAmKingTony says... #5
Alright, I kinda thought that was the way it would be! Time to switch up the deck...
Engulfing Slagwurm seems interesting
Thanks guys!
November 17, 2011 2:26 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... #6
Well, hold on. There's something that was missed here.
Glissa, the Traitor has first strike.
This means that, assuming none of your opponent's creatures have first strike themselves, you can cast Fog after the first strike combat damage step, but before the normal combat damage step. Glissa will deal her damage and kill creatures, then your fog will prevent all the damage they'll do.
November 18, 2011 4:08 p.m.
MagnorCriol, actually, no...
Fog is a instant spell, but it prevents any damage that would be dealt this turn, and not the following damage to be dealt;
Now if you use a spell that would prevent damage to be dealt to Glissa, the Traitor , it'd be perfect;
November 19, 2011 8:47 a.m.
but that damage from first strike is dealt before the Fog effect is in . . . um . . . effect. Fog does not retroactively prevent damage. It can't.
November 19, 2011 12:22 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... #9
Yeah, the game rules don't look back in time and "undo" damage that has already been dealt. In any case, SBAs are checked between the first strike combat damage step and the normal combat damage step, meaning (among other things) that creatures will be put into the graveyard. If Fog retroactively prevented damage, it would also have to be able to pull creatures from the graveyard (because damage dealt to them that killed them would be "undealt") and that opens up all sorts of rules problems.
Fog would prevent all combat damage dealt after it applies, but it doesn't do anything to what happens before it.
eze01 says... Accepted answer #1
nope, deattouch needs damage to be dealt before it can destroy a creature.
November 17, 2011 5:12 a.m.