When does a creature become a Vampire?

Asked by BrickMaster28 2 months ago

I am building a deck with Evelyn, the Covetous and want to take advantage of her "another Vampire enters the battlefield effect". Say I have Mephidross Vampire on the battlefield already, and I cast a non-Vampire creature card (either from my hand or from exile with a collection counter on it) - would the non-Vampire creature become a Vampire before/as entering the battlefield to trigger Evelyn's effect? Same question to Olivia, Mobilized for War.

I ask because the effects of both cards give the impression that the non-Vampire creature would become a Vampire after entering the battlefield, thus not triggering Evelyn's effect. But I wanted to double-check in case I was wrong, because that would be a fun effect to implement.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

Mephidross Vampire works but Olivia, Mobilized for War does not.

Mephidross Vampire's effect is from a static ability (any ability that isn't activated or triggered is a static ability), and static abilities are just "always on". Your creatures are Vampires from the very moment they enter the battlefield and Evelyn, the Covetous will see them that way.

Olivia's effect, however, is created from the resolution of a triggered ability (anything that starts with one of the words "when", "whenever" or "at"). The ability triggers when the creature enters the battlefield and the creature gets turned into a Vampire as the trigger finishes resolving. If it wasn't already a Vampire to start with, Evelyn won't trigger when it enters the battlefield. After it gets turned into a Vampire, you don't back up the game and try to do Evelyn's trigger again. That moment has already passed.

February 13, 2024 1:57 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #2

BrickMaster28: An answer to your question has been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections that need to be made, I marked it as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel is the most helpful answer to your question.

I try to avoid marking my own responses when I do this, but in this case it was the only option.

February 21, 2024 8:51 a.m.

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