so i was wondering, when you cast Sythis, Harvest's Hand does the ability trigger then from casting her, (meaning you gain a life and draw from casting her) or does it not?

Asked by ElijahCallahan64 2 years ago

So on arena, it gives me the trigger but in person, people don't believe me and argue with me

Chaospyke says... #1

Arena has many problems and is unreliable.

If you are casting Sythis, Harvest's Hand and don't have another one on the battlefield, it's ability will not trigger. There has to be one on the battlefield in order to see the card cast.

September 28, 2021 9:57 p.m.

right, cause I'm sure that Magic: the gathering would make the rules in their game misleading?

September 28, 2021 10:41 p.m.

Wendithewendigo says... Accepted answer #3

The creature needs to be on the battlefield in order for its abilities to trigger, it is a response to the summoning spell being cast that triggered the ability. So the spell is cast and then she appears on the battlefield, so she does not trigger her own ability

September 29, 2021 12:20 a.m.

The above comments are correct. Here's the rule that proves this:

113.6. Abilities of an instant or sorcery spell usually function only while that object is on the stack. Abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is on the battlefield. The exceptions are as follows: 113.6a Characteristic-defining abilities function everywhere, even outside the game and before the game begins. (See rule 604.3.) 113.6b An ability that states which zones it functions in functions only from those zones. 113.6c An ability that states which zones it doesn’t function in functions everywhere except for the specified zones, even outside the game and before the game begins. 113.6d An object’s ability that allows a player to pay an alternative cost rather than its mana cost or otherwise modifies what that particular object costs to cast functions on the stack. 113.6e An object’s ability that restricts or modifies how that particular object can be played or cast functions in any zone from which it could be played or cast and also on the stack. An object’s ability that grants it another ability that restricts or modifies how that particular object can be played or cast functions only on the stack. 113.6f An object’s ability that restricts or modifies what zones that particular object can be played or cast from functions everywhere, even outside the game. 113.6g An object’s ability that states it can’t be countered functions on the stack. 113.6h An object’s ability that modifies how that particular object enters the battlefield functions as that object is entering the battlefield. See rule 614.12. 113.6i An object’s ability that states counters can’t be put on that object functions as that object is entering the battlefield in addition to functioning while that object is on the battlefield. 113.6j An object’s activated ability that has a cost that can’t be paid while the object is on the battlefield functions from any zone in which its cost can be paid. 113.6k A trigger condition that can’t trigger from the battlefield functions in all zones it can trigger from. Other trigger conditions of the same triggered ability may function in different zones. Example: Absolver Thrull has the ability “When Absolver Thrull enters the battlefield or the creature it haunts dies, destroy target enchantment.” The first trigger condition functions from the battlefield and the second trigger condition functions from the exile zone. (See rule 702.55, “Haunt.”) 113.6m An ability whose cost or effect specifies that it moves the object it’s on out of a particular zone functions only in that zone, unless its trigger condition or a previous part of its cost or effect specifies that the object is put into that zone or, if the object is an Aura, that the object it enchants leaves the battlefield. The same is true if the effect of that ability creates a delayed triggered ability whose effect moves the object out of a particular zone. Example: Reassembling Skeleton says “{1}{B}: Return Reassembling Skeleton from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.” A player may activate this ability only if Reassembling Skeleton is in their graveyard. 113.6n An ability that modifies the rules for deck construction functions before the game begins. Such an ability modifies not just the Comprehensive Rules, but also the Magic: The Gathering Tournament Rules and any other documents that set the deck construction rules for a specific format. However, such an ability can’t affect the format legality of a card, including whether it’s banned or restricted. The current Magic: The Gathering Tournament Rules can be found at WPN.Wizards.com/en/resources/rules-documents. 113.6p Abilities of emblems, plane cards, vanguard cards, scheme cards, and conspiracy cards function in the command zone. See rule 114, “Emblems”; rule 901, “Planechase”; rule 902, “Vanguard”; rule 904, “Archenemy”; and rule 905, “Conspiracy Draft.”

September 29, 2021 4:40 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #5

In the future, please remember to hit the green "Mark as Answer" button to indicate your question has been resolved. As this question has been answered for several days, I have gone ahead and marked an answer on your behalf.

October 3, 2021 10:07 p.m.

Caerwyn idrc

November 18, 2021 8:35 a.m.

ElijahCallahan64 it's just common courtesy to mark these as answered. Everyone else somehow finds the time. We're all just trying to help

November 18, 2021 12:55 p.m.

Omniscience_is_life Thank You! I appreciate you! however, i do not appreciate the unnecessary bossing around. from sum ppl for no reason

November 18, 2021 1:02 p.m.

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