Simulacrum & Phyrexian Obliterator
Asked by theemptyquiver 12 years ago
Lets say that I have an Phyrexian Obliterator on the table and I attacked with it on my turn.
Then my opponent attacks when the coast is clear doing X damage to my face.If I cast Simulacrum and target Phyrexian Obliterator will the "source" still be my opponent or will it now be me due to the Simulacrum being cast?
Rhadamanthus says... #3
I just want to make it clear that the reason Jimhawk's answer is correct is because the current Oracle text of Simulacrum is very different from what's printed on the card. It doesn't go back in time and redirect the damage dealt earlier in the turn. What it currently does is cause you to gain life equal to the damage dealt this turn, and then it deals damage equal to that amount to one of your creatures. Any normal redirection effect (Divine Deflection , etc.) will not change the source of the damage and the answer to your question would be different.
April 6, 2013 10:22 p.m.
Actually, Divine Deflection
isn't a normal redirection effect.
5/1/2012 Divine Deflection's effect is not a redirection effect. If it prevents damage, Divine Deflection (not the original source) deals damage to the targeted creature or player as part of that prevention effect. Divine Deflection is the source of the new damage, so the characteristics of the original source (such as its color, or whether it had lifelink or deathtouch) don't affect this damage. The new damage is not combat damage, even if the prevented damage was. Since you control the source of the new damage, if you targeted an opponent with Divine Deflection, you may have Divine Deflection deal its damage to a planeswalker that opponent controls.
The reason is that Divine Deflection can prevent damage from multiple sources at once, so it had to be worded such that Divine Deflection did the damage, or there would too much confusion as to how many sources of damage were being redirected.
April 6, 2013 10:38 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #6
Okay, so I didn't bother reading the card before using it as an example. My fault.
Jimhawk says... Accepted answer #1
From the Gatherer entry:
8/1/2008 Simulacrum is the source of the damage. If an effect needs to know a characteristic of the damage's source (Protection from Black, for instance), it will see the damage coming from Simulacrum.
You are now the controller of the source of damage, so you will have to sacrifice permanents to Phyrexian Obliterator 's triggered ability.
April 6, 2013 7 p.m.