provoke and menace REDO
Asked by proterran98 7 years ago
I received two conflicting answers for scenario 2. Can I get another ruling.
Scenario 1. I have Hunter Sliver in play and Goblin War Drums. My opponent has 1 Squire and no more creatures, can I provoke squire into blocking my hunter sliver.
Scenario 2. now my opponent has 2 squires. Can I provoke one and out of requirement he has to double block my hunter sliver with both his squires?
Biscuitsthegreat says... #2
In scenario one, the Squire cannot block as stated in rule 509.1b The defending player checks each creature he or she controls to see whether its affected by any restrictions (effects that say a creature cant block, or that it cant block unless some condition is met). in scenario two, both are required to block, again, as stated in rule 509.1b
April 27, 2017 4:36 p.m.
proterran98 says... #3
acbooster I got two logical responses that contradicted each other, I did not know which one is right without gathering more intel. AKA get a second opinion. So don't lecture me about reposts, I want it get it done right, and having two responses that contradict is not a closed case.
April 27, 2017 4:38 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #4
What is the other contradictory response you received and what made it logical?
Did they provide rulings to back up their claim?
April 27, 2017 9 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
The user who posted the contradictory response came back and acknowledged they made a mistake. Trust me, enough users read these boards that any confusion in a thread is going to be resolved fairly quickly. Just be patient.
acbooster says... Accepted answer #1
For future reference do not repost a question that has been answered. Neotrup's answer for the second scenario is correct and he even cited the correct rule for the situation. For the sake of posterity, here's what he said again:
If your opponent controls two creatures, one of which is provoked, both creatures must block a creature with menace. The reason is rule 509.1c, which because it can be confusing, it provides an example very similar to your situation:
Example: A player controls one creature that "blocks if able" and another creature with no abilities. If a creature with menace attacks that player, the player must block with both creatures. Having only the first creature block violates the restriction created by menace (the attacking creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures). Having only the second creature block violates both the menace restriction and the first creature's blocking requirement. Having neither creature block fulfills the restriction but not the requirement.
April 27, 2017 4:20 p.m.