Oversized commander cards w/o normal
Asked by Nocturnal Outcast 9 years ago
If i got an oversized Zur the Enchanter from the commander's arsonal, would I be allowed to use it as a commander if I do not have a standard sized version of the card?
The new rules allow you to not be forced to tuck your commander in deck, so he would never go in it, and even if he got set to hand (by choice) they already know he is there, and random discard could still be done with dice rolls.
3.3 Authorized CardsPlayers may use any Authorized Game Cards from Magic: The Gathering expansions, core sets, special sets, supplements, and promotional printings. Authorized Game Cards are cards that, unaltered, meet the following conditions:
1) The card is genuine and published by Wizards of the Coast
2) The card has a standard Magic back or is a double-faced card.
3) The card does not have squared corners.
4) The card has black or white borders.
5) The card is not a token card.
6) The card is not damaged or modified in a way that might make it marked.
7) The card is otherwise legal for the tournament as defined by the format.
8) The card is a proxy issued by the judge of a tournament (see section 3.4 for rules about proxies). Any other cards that are not Authorized Game Cards are prohibited in all sanctioned tournaments.
1) Yup Wizards of the coast made it
2) Yup, standard back
3) edges are indeed rounded
4) The edges are indeed black
5) Not a token
6) Not damaged...marked...maybe?
7) Main rule in question
8) Nope.
Nocturnal Outcast says... #2
Thanks Merrow,
Kinda funny that it is considered a "proxy" though, being that WotC are the ones who made it, when their own rule book is very explicit about "proxies are bad, don't own, make, or look at them"
My playgroup is pretty much whoever shows up at the cardstore I hang out at, so might buy the oversized one still they have on display, and order the normal one if people actually care.
January 15, 2016 12:34 a.m.
merrowMania says... #3
Yeah, Wizards is weird like that. There was actually an article on proxies today on the Daily Magic site. Rule 8 is the dealbreaker for oversized cards as far as proxies are concerned.
January 15, 2016 12:45 a.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #4
I'll refer you to official Mtg: Commander release notes (For 2015 edition, but applies to all) that give the following information:
Oversized Commanders
Each Magic: The GatheringCommander (2015 Edition) deck comes with an oversized foil card that corresponds to the commander of that deck. This card is for fun only and isn't required for Commander game play.
- You must have the traditional Magic card version of your commander, even if you use the oversized card.
- As long as your commander is in a public zone, such as the command zone or the battlefield, you may substitute the oversized card for the traditional Magic card.
- If your commander is in a hidden zone, such as your library or your hand, use the traditional Magic card.
January 15, 2016 12:47 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
Commander is not a casual format. It is a social format.
January 15, 2016 8:48 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #6
The oversized commander cards fail the "card has a standard Magic back" requirement. If you compare it to a regular card you'll notice that the color scheme and certain other details are very different.
merrowMania says... #1
Commander is a casual format, so talk to your playgroup. For a sanctioned event, it would NOT be allowed unless you have a regular version. It is considered a proxy, albeit VERY high quality.
January 15, 2016 12:21 a.m.