I'm wondering if I can use this as a wincon...
Asked by Sweepea38 9 years ago
Felidar Sovereign in the graveyard, brought onto the battlefield with Seance. Does Felidar's ability get to trigger because it's during the beginning of the upkeep or, is it not?
Okay, I guess that makes sense. Any and all permanents trigger their "Beginning of your upkeep" abilities at once, and as soon as one of those abilities on the stack resolves, it's no longer the beginning of the upkeep is the logic,right DevoidMage?
January 27, 2016 1:09 a.m.
Servo_Token says... #3
I feel like that's an appropriate answer, yeah. Basically so that you can't get away with putting things into play during your upkeep that need to be there throughout the whole of your upkeep (Say, if you wanted to flash in a non-hasty creature during the upkeep and attack with it in the same turn)
January 27, 2016 1:30 a.m.
Lost_Ascendant says... #4
It would work if you added Paradox Haze to the equation, but that adds another card to the combo.
January 27, 2016 1:33 a.m.
Oh my gosh Lost_Ascendant. I'm making a commander deck out of cards I can find in my room and that so happens to be one of my favorite cards in my collection. #hype #thanksforremindingme
January 27, 2016 1:38 a.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #6
Abilities can't retroactively trigger. A card that is put onto the battlefield during the upkeep step can not trigger its "beginning of the upkeep" ability because the beginning of the upkeep has already come and gone. As was suggested, Paradox Haze can remedy this situation because that will give you a second instance of a "beginning of the upkeep".
January 27, 2016 2:02 a.m.
eeriekiller says... #7
Add a bunch of tutors to the mix if you're going that rout. Esper (
) is a powerful EDH deck color combo and it has most tutors in there. Toot for your combos and entomb felidar
January 27, 2016 8:44 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #8
Note that the beginning of the upkeep isn't defined by when something resolves.
The beginning of a step or phase is better characterized as the single moment when you move from the previous step or phase into the new one. The beginning of a step or phase has no duration. It's like passing a mile marker on the highway; the new step or phase begins and then you're in it. It's a point, not a period.
In order for an ability that triggers at the beginning of something to actually trigger, its source needs to be in the appropriate zone at the exact moment you move from the previous step or phase into the step or phase during which the ability would trigger. Abilities don't trigger retroactively if their sources enter the proper zone after the beginning of the step or phase.
January 27, 2016 9:27 a.m.
Tyrannosary says... #9
Well I see that you probably know the answer is no now.
January 28, 2016 9:19 a.m.
Yes! and I'm thankful for the help on it. Thanks! :)
Servo_Token says... #1
Once something happens during the upkeep, it is no longer "The beginning of the upkeep", so no.
January 27, 2016 1:03 a.m.