If Clone is a copy of Treacherous Pit-Dweller and it dies, does it come back under my opponet's control?
Asked by scholar 12 years ago
Just as the title states.
I have a Clone out as a copy of my own Treacherous Pit-Dweller . If my opponent kills my Clone (which is a copy of Treacherous Pit-Dweller ), would Clone come back with undying on my side of the battlefield and I'd be able to choose a new creature to copy; or instead, would my opponent gain control of the Clone ?
Thanks!
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2
Clone will have undying when it dies, so it will return to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it when it dies. The ability that causes it to change control is a triggered ability of Treacherous Pit-Dweller that triggers when it enters the battlefield (only if it is a Treacherous Pit-Dweller when it ETBs).
You will choose what Clone copies as it ETBs. If you recopy the Treacherous Pit-Dweller , it will gain the control-changing ability and that ability will trigger, so it's in your best interest to copy another creature instead.
November 12, 2012 4:44 p.m.
Of course, having Clone enter has a copy of another creature is a may ability. So, you could also have it re-enter as a just a Clone , with a +1/+1 counter on it, if there were no other targets for it.
November 12, 2012 4:48 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #4
Treacherous Pit-Dweller doesn't go straight from the graveyard to an opponent's control. It comes back under your control just like Undying says it does, and then its first ability triggers since it entered from a graveyard. Your Clone will only have this triggered ability if you choose to have it come back as a copy of Pit Dweller again (you probably shouldn't).
November 12, 2012 4:55 p.m.
And what happens if your opponent has hex proof via Witchbane Orb or something, can you have Clone enter the battlefield as a Treacherous Pit-Dweller and have it stay on your side of the battlefield?
November 12, 2012 7:58 p.m.
Assuming I have this right...
If your opponent has Hexproof through an effect such as that of Witchbane Orb , then they would become an illegal target for Treacherous Pit-Dweller s ability, and it will be returned to the graveyard. It specifically says target opponent, and you cannot target yourself as an opponent.
November 12, 2012 8:59 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #7
@Denial048: That's incorrect. If your only opponent can't be targeted for Treacherous Pit-Dweller 's ability, the ability just doesn't happen. It doesn't cause the Treacherous Pit-Dweller to die.
November 12, 2012 9:03 p.m.
Thanks Epochalyptik, I wasn't 100% sure. So then it would return under your control.
November 12, 2012 9:05 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
It returns under your control anyway; it's temporarily under your control before the ability that causes it to change control causes it to go to the targeted opponent. If that ability can't be put onto the stack (due to there being no legal targets), then the Treacherous Pit-Dweller remains under your control.
djgunn says... #1
Undying would trigger, but the Clone doesn't have to re-enter the battlefield as a Treacherous Pit-Dweller . If the controller of Clone decided to have it enter as a copy of the pit-dweller, then yes.
November 12, 2012 4:40 p.m.