Flamerush Rider
Asked by TheMagicalDuck 9 years ago
So if I understand this card correctly, if I control two Flamerush Riders i can make infinite copies of them and win? That is to say, if I were to play a Twinflame on it - would I get infinite triggers and be able to attack with infinite damage?
HolyFalcon says... #2
First of all, this should be in the Q&A, located at the top of the screen.
To answer your question, no. Flamerush Rider puts the token onto the battlefield tapped and attacking, meaning you can't get the attack trigger from copies of Flamerush Rider made by Flamerush Rider.
June 20, 2015 10:38 p.m.
Unfortunately, no. The token you create with Flamerush Rider's ability will not trigger its own version of the ability because technically it never was declared as an attacker. It shows up already in the process of attacking. For reference, go check out its gatherer page and take a look at the rulings (the relevant ruling is the second one listed)
Edit: I just got double ninja'd. Damn my marginal iPad typing ability
June 20, 2015 10:39 p.m. Edited.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #5
Always check the Gatherer rulings before posting a question.
11/24/2014: Although the token is attacking, it was never declared as an attacking creature (for purposes of abilities that trigger whenever a creature attacks, for example).
There's an important distinction in Magic between being an attacking creature and a creature being declared as an attacker. "Attacks/attacked" means that the creature must be declared as an attacking creature as a turn-based action at the beginning of the declare attackers step. However, any creature that attacked or that is put onto the battlefield attacking becomes an attacking creature.
Abilities that trigger when something attacks don't trigger unless the specified creature was declared as an attacker. Putting Flamerush Rider onto the battlefield tapped and attacking makes it an attacking creature, but it never attacked, so its ability never triggers.
HyourinmaruX1 says... #1
No it does not work that way. Once the copy of Flamerush Rider enters the battlefield, it is already attacking. That means his effect does not trigger, because at the point that it entered the battlefield, attackers have already been declared. His effect only triggers when you declare him as an attacker.
It would work if you could somehow generate infinite combat steps though, that might be something gimmicky and fun to look out for! :P
June 20, 2015 10:37 p.m.