Ajani's Pridemate + Congregate
Asked by TowerOfBad 13 years ago
So, I had another card disagreement with my group, and I just want to make absolutely sure I am doing this correctly.
1) I play card:Ajani's Pridemate.2) There are currently 22 creatures on the battlefield, including the Pridemate.3) I cast Congregate, targeting myself.
Obviously I gain the 44 life, no one is contesting that. Now, do I just +44 to like or +2*22 to my life? How many counters should my Pridemate get from this?
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2
I believe that it's one instance of lifegain, so when Congregate resolves, you'll gain a single block of 44 life. Since you gained life, card:Ajani's Pridemate's ability will trigger. You will put one counter on it because there was one instance of lifegain (how much life you gained is irrelevant to the Pridemate's ability).
September 9, 2011 1:45 p.m.
TowerOfBad says... #3
I know how much life I gain is irrelevant, but how many times I gain life is not.
I was told (at a Friday Night Magic game a while back) that War Report would net me two +1/+1 counters, due to the "and" in there. According to the judge, I gained life twice from that card.
Does it not work the same way with this one? I was under the impression (and hoping) I gained life from each creature separately.
September 9, 2011 2:39 p.m.
Congregate will only give you one packet of life.I'm not 100% on this one, but I believe whomever told you that War Report gave you two packets of life is wrong. There is no word "and" in War Report . War Report says "plus".
September 9, 2011 3:14 p.m.
To my understanding it would net 1 +1/+1 for card:Ajani's Pridemate since Congregate ability resolves only once, resulting in one instance of life gain. As Congregate resolves it checks how many creatures are in play then gives that much life x2, however each gain of 2 life from Congregate 's effect does not resolve separately.
I'm also not sure that War Report would give you 2 +1/+1 counters either since the life gain from that card resolves at the same time since it is an addition of the 2 factors (creatures / artifacts on the battlefield).
In both cases it is only one instance of life gain, so both cards would only give 1 +1/+1 counter.
September 9, 2011 3:24 p.m.
card:Ajani's Pridemate's Oracle ruling:
8/15/2010: The ability triggers just once for each life-gaining event, whether it's 1 life from card:Angel's Feather or 4 life from Brindle Boar .
The lifegain from Congregate is a single event, and thus card:Ajani's Pridemate's ability triggers once.
September 9, 2011 4:06 p.m.
Additionally, War Report is a single life-gaining event, and it would trigger card:Ajani's Pridemate's ability once.
September 9, 2011 4:07 p.m.
You would only get one +1/+1 counter considering that it's only one instance of life-gain.
Now if there were multiple instances of gaining life (such as having out card:Soul's Attendant while playing card:Master's Call, you would get two +1/+1 counters.
September 9, 2011 4:39 p.m.
emblasochist says... #9
Your card:Ajani's Pridemate would get only one counter, as Congregate generates a single instance of lifegain. The current Oracle text does not specifically answer whether it is supposed to be a single event or not, as it still reads "Target player gains 2 life for each creature in play." It has not been updated to reflect that "in play" means "on the battlefield", however, in my experience, it is always treated as a single instance of lifegain.
September 9, 2011 6:26 p.m.
I would agree that Congregate is one instance which would give card:Ajani's Pridemate ONLY 1 +1/+1 counter. It doesn't matter how large the heal effect is.
September 10, 2011 12:24 a.m.
xxxxxxCronoxxxxxx says... #11
orical ruling8/15/2010 The ability triggers just once for each life-gaining event, whether it's 1 life from Angel's Feather or 4 life from Brindle Boar.
you only gain life from congregate once
ajani's pridemate does not care how much life you gain,
it only cares about how many effects cause you to gain life,
congregate is only 1 effect even if there are an infinent number of creatures in play
September 10, 2011 4:50 a.m.
just put a Sunbond on Ajani's Pridemate then you can get all 44 plus the extra 1 from Congregate
August 9, 2014 1:41 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #13
@abelethan: Read the post dates before you comment. This thread was closed three years ago.
August 9, 2014 1:43 a.m.
Can we just lock threads and archive them after a certain length of time? All of these recent necrobumps are getting old.
No pun intended.
TowerOfBad says... #1
Ugh, I screwed the post up somehow.
card:Ajani's Pridemate + Congregate = ? +1/+1 counters?
September 9, 2011 1:24 p.m.