New format and new forum!
Site Updates forum
Posted on Aug. 19, 2014, 12:32 a.m. by Epochalyptik
Duel Commander has been added as a separate format.
Casual and Social has been added as a forum. This will be the place to discuss noncompetitive play and formats such as Archenemy and Planechase.
Epochalyptik says... #4
Duel Commander is the actual name for what people commonly call "French Rules." It's for 1v1 games, or duels.
August 19, 2014 12:48 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #5
Hmm I went to check to see if it says French in the description on the forum page because I want to suggest putting that there (if an involved commander player like me has a misunderstanding, only God knows how many new players will do the same), but I actually can't see it. Which is weird, cause I see social and casual just fine.
Is it taking time to update or something? Lol
August 19, 2014 12:53 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
Duel Commander was added as a format. C&S was added as a forum.
August 19, 2014 12:56 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #7
I feel like an idiot now. Lol, maybe this is an indicator I need to go to sleep instead of going on tappedout.
What would be the benefits/drawbacks of changing the hub name to "1v1 Commander"? I don't know if "Duel Commander" is the official name for it, but if it is, I really think "1v1 Commander" is still a better name for it, since it's immediately obvious to what it refers.
Also, I just checked and the current slug name for the Commander hub is "edh". Can that be changed to "commander" instead for nomenclature symmetry/consistency purposes?
August 19, 2014 1:06 a.m.
FancyTuesday says... #8
Horray new things!
Duel Commander seems pretty clear. It's the name of the format and the website that hosts the rules pertaining to it. If you're mistaking it for Two-Headed Giant variants you might be mistaking the word "duel" for "dual."
August 19, 2014 1:19 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #9
Don't get me wrong, it makes total sense now, but I'm wondering if it is more beneficial to try to stick to the official name for it rather than try to avoid having a hub that is filled half way with decks not in that format due to a misunderstanding from newer players.
Then again, I could be paranoid about the players who don't care to actually understand where things are supposed to go or I could be assuming that my personal experience with a miscommunication in this matter is likely to happen to other players as well.
I mean, at this point, I would probably argue that it's best to call it "duel commander" since it's the official name too, but I guess I'm playing devil's advocate.
Wait, what about adding "(1v1; French)" at the end of the tab? In the way that Esper is named "Esper (W/U/B)", I think that this could be called "Duel Commander (1v1)" to weed out the majority of any kind of misunderstandings.
August 19, 2014 1:41 a.m.
I'm excited to see that Duel Commander is now its own format here, but I think it may need some editing. I set one of my projects to Duel Commander, and there was no designation to list the commander. It only said 'Featured Card.'
August 19, 2014 1:44 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #11
Check again in a bit. If it's still giving you issues, yeaGO will need to take a look at it.
August 19, 2014 1:48 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #12
This might be a silly question, but aren't the vast majority of EDH decks also Duel Commander decks?
It it possible to tag your deck as both if you use it in both formats? It seems restricting otherwise.
August 19, 2014 7:34 p.m.
FancyTuesday says... #13
Many EDH decks are also Duel Commander legal as there are only a handful of cards banned in DC that are legal in EDH, but that doesn't mean that's what they're designed for. My decks are designed with multiple opponents in mind, and they're at a considerable disadvantage when playing against a single opponent from the start of the game against a deck built around overwhelming one person.
Among other things, from a deck-design standpoint this effects card suggestions. Diplomacy cards become meaningless. Board wipes lose potency and spot removal becomes far more valuable. Effects that say "for each opponent" like the Primordials and "each turn" triggers like the Forces are neutered significantly, while effects that say "your upkeep" gain a lot of power as they no longer have to survive 3 or 4 opponent's turns. Denial/countermagic is a lot more reliable in Duels as you only have to lock out one person as opposed to many.
I've been using the Multiplayer tag up til now to make it clear that my decks are designed around Standard EDH, though that might be redundant since there are now separate hubs for Duel and Standard Commander.
August 19, 2014 7:57 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #14
Duel Commander and regular Commander have different ban lists. You typically build for one or the other. It doesn't make any sense to follow the Duel Commander ban list if you're playing regular Commander because so many strong ramp cards are banned.
August 19, 2014 8:15 p.m.
TurboFagoot says... #15
God how could anyone get confused over the name lol Do people not know what the word "Duel" means?
Anyway, good work Epoch, a lot of us really appreciate this. I swear if someone tells me Primeval Titan is banned one more time lol
And most EDH decks aren't Duel Commander legal. They run silly cards like Sol Ring or Mana Crypt which aren't legal in Duel Commander.
August 20, 2014 1:47 p.m.
KillTheIslandUser says... #16
This is a nice update, and hopefully will help those who are looking for specific things. Narrowing searches are always helpful, instead of getting a large one size fits all.
Duel and multiplayer edh are 2 different breeds.
August 20, 2014 7:38 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #17
Hold on, we have a Social forum and we have a Casual and Social forum. Shouldn't the Casual and Social forum just be Casual?
August 21, 2014 4 a.m.
KillTheIslandUser says... #18
Femme_FataleSocial forum doesn't mean casual... social forum could just be what ev. Oh today I feel like talking about what happened in a match today. I see what you are saying, but it's not the same thing. He also didn't clarify that, and just jumbled it all together, so yes I think that should be better explained.
August 21, 2014 4:04 a.m.
_SeriosSkies_ says... #22
I follow Duel commander banlists when i solely play EDH because some people who do just this will misinterpret them for EDH rules and its nice to know what they are talking about to clarify it for them...but yeah...beyond that i don't know why people who don't play Duel commander keep up with its rules.
As regards to the name...you could just Parentheses the 1v1 after the name duel commander, IE: [Duel Commander (1v1)]...when i read this forum initially i didn't understand what it was referring to until it was clarified in the comments (and i read it). not saying it shouldn't be named the name of the format..,but it will confuse those who play regular commander and don't frequent 1v1/French/Duel.
August 22, 2014 3:29 p.m.
KillTheIslandUser says... #23
Regular commander still has banned cards as well, and it's something to uphold when you aren't playing kitchen table with your friends. Some shops do have huge edh leagues. Milwaukee has a huge EDH league following, and get into huge tournaments with cash and winner takes all.
MagicalHacker says... #2
This may be a stupid question, but is duel commander referring to French EDH/Commander, or two headed variants? It sounds more like the latter, but makes more sense as a new addition if it were the former....
August 19, 2014 12:37 a.m.