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Yeah, the deck I lost to ran Kydele+Vial Smasher and never cast any of those. In a Storm build I don't really know if I would cast Ydris at all. Maybe as a way to push commander damage in case someone has hexproof and fizzles your other win cons, but in that situation it's a rough spot, specially in a competitive scene. The good thing about the Aluren combo is that even if someone wants to interact, you can still go off, but of course, it would require some tweaking and if the deck is working fine without it, changing could make it worse overall, even while assuring a new almost-ironclad wincon. It's a matter of testing as you said.
I'll keep an eye on your deck to see how it goes and take some notes, it's probably a matter of time until I make some storm build of my own.
February 24, 2017 2:47 p.m.
How do you feel about Aluren with Cavern Harpy, Parasitic Strix and Sea Gate Oracle? (Also cards like Dream Stalker, Cloud of Faeries, Glen Elendra Archmage work well with it. They aren't essential, but might be worth considering.)
I've played against that online and it felt very powerful. Actually nuked my Narset deck out of nowhere.
I've been thinking of a storm deck to play mostly for fun, but I've ended up thinking either Ydris or Kydele + Vial Smasher as generals however I think of it. It wasn't that clear for me what role Ydris would fill in EDH at first, but it's starting to look like the best Storm general really.
February 24, 2017 11:29 a.m.
Aren't Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit and Cathars' Crusade worthy to include? Since they add some redundancy they make the combo with Murderous Redcap more consistent, besides with Pentavus and Phyrexian Altar the Crusade makes for infinite counters, even infinite tokens and mana with Ashnod's Altar instead and "infinite" card draw with Mindless Automaton. The synergy is definitely there. I had never thought of Pentavus and Mindless Automaton before, but now I think I'll add them to my own Alesha deck too!
Great list! Upvoted ;)
February 21, 2017 4:21 p.m.
I've thought about that, the deck was mainly made for fun and to change things around a bit in my playgroup, and I immediately think of Mycosynth Lattice as more of a spike card, so my mind quickly dismissed it. But now that you bring it up, that's actually much better here than I'd antecipated at first. There's the Akiri potential (even though that's not our main plan) and maybe even more importantly, there's the clause that I personally never remember the lattice has: Spend mana of any colour to cast your spells, which is HUGE with Kydele, and very useful in a 4 colour deck.
I will definitely try it out and if the deck starts to become too expensive I might publish an alternative budget list for those interested to give it a run out but not to fully invest in it (even though it's still not insanely expensive in EDH standards - and there's the whole fetch land package included in that price tag too).
I'm a strong advocate for budget options, not just because I don't want to spend money unnecessarily, but, particularly in EDH, my goal is to have a fun experience playing, more than annihilating my friends while winning. If the whole strategy relies on that expensive card, I'd get it in time; if not then I'd go into how that card contributes to the meta and healthy play in my group. I'll think about getting it if I figure it will be real fun and cool for everyone, or keep a more budget friendly card if I don't think that the expensive card brings that much to the table in terms of fun.
Thanks for your comment!
February 21, 2017 2:58 p.m.
Note that the card says CMC 3, not 3 or lower ;)
February 16, 2017 8:41 p.m.
I've recently built my own version of the deck and I'm looking for all feedback I can find. How does your deck fare in terms of consistency?
I'd also suggest Arjun, the Shifting Flame which not only is insanely fun, but strongly enables Kydele and helps you find whatever you need to cast next.
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February 16, 2017 2:13 p.m.
You make a good point comparing this to the cruel Vial Smasher the Fierce pairing with Kydele. That's precisely what I thought while I built my list. Akiri makes the deck much more unassuming and still very powerful in a less restraining way for your opponents. All around it's more fun to play and play against this partner combination.
I'd suggest Paradox Engine. In my build I combo with it and Isochron Scepter and that makes for a good excuse to include Boros Charm which works brilliantly with Akiri as well (and other cool instants to imprint too, but Boros Charm is the one that turns Akiri into much more of a threat). Also Arjun, the Shifting Flame is insane with Kydele (and Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, Psychosis Crawler, Sphinx's Tutelage...).
Check out my list. There are very few Kydele + Akiri Decks so far, so there's still a lot to learn about these commanders combination.
+1 given. This partner and color combination seems better to me everytime I think about it.
February 16, 2017 1:58 p.m.
I've been working on my own list, but I think I can share some of my experience already.
Alesha is red, her ability requires double non-red hybrid mana, so most times It's hard to have a very aggressive start since we either start swinging soon, or fill our board soon. I've been avoiding playing Alesha on T3 or earlier, since I favour getting other creatures on board first, or cast spells like Buried Alive, Cathartic Reunion, Tormenting Voice, to make the most of her ability. More relevant, to fix the harsh colour needs of the deck, I run Chromatic Lantern. I also run bounce lands (Boros Garrison, Rakdos Carnarium and Orzhov Basilica) since with a slow start and nothing to do on turn 1, playing one of this on turn 2 gets you a free discard, which for Alesha is a form of card advantage.
I'd also recommend Big Game Hunter to round up your removal options and an additional combo in Leonin Relic-Warder and Animate Dead. Animate Dead the Leonin, target Animate Dead with it's ability, rinse+repeat. With Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat or Purphoros, God of the Forge, that's game. I've also been trying Daretti, Scrap Savant as a way to get even more card advantage (and it acts like a removal beacon as well, so people might waste resources on him even though he's not vital to the main plan).
Feel free to check my deck as well:
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February 16, 2017 6:42 a.m.
I've seen stuff like Unsubstantiate played against me and be very powerful with storm spells. That and Remand might give you some added versatility and essentially double your storm count when going off. Brain Freeze is also a good storm card to finish games off.
If you are willing to spend a bit more money improving, the whole Aluren package is brilliant to storm off, with cards like Sea Gate Oracle, Dream Stalker, Parasitic Strix, Cavern Harpy, Cloud of Faeries and such, you just draw and play your whole deck, repeatedly if you want, until you are able to find and cast your storm spell.
Anger and Wonder don't seem at their best, since you have few creatures and the deck is more spell based as is, and Yawgmoth's Bargain is banned in EDH. Otherwise, the deck looks pretty fun, and even though I don't play it I've been loving playing against Yidris ever since C16 was released. Really fun for everyone at the table in my experience.
February 15, 2017 10:54 p.m.
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