ForsakenxEDHx Deckling

kdown it happens to the best of us.

Cutting// Reclamation Sage

Adding// Survival of the Fittest

I strongly agree with Hi-Power. It does create sadness that Ana could be associated with so many decks that require an advanced board state with a main goal of turn stuff sideways (very representative of casual geared). Ana requires almost nothing for a board state and needs no turning sideways (more representative of competitive geared). Hopefully this will get squared away.

Aphoticate

My wordage is bad I suppose...but I do realize you were saying the opposite. I was addressing that. Tymna would be fine in the CZ but the other Partner cuts a good card from the 99 essentially leaving you 99 cards and a dead one in the CZ. So yeah I'm still going to say Ana is at least equal to a partner pairing. Vs a deck that uses the yard (a large percent of cEDH) Ana available in the CZ outweighs having to draw into hate pieces and relies on more moving parts example successful combat, hitting multiple opponents, an adequate board presence to land hits, ect....Ana is clearly viable in the CZ.

Other than Flash, the CMC is certianly better as well as the stats. I would agree Honor Guard is slightly underrated.

SynergyBuild

I run P. Hulk, Boonweaver, and Pod as my fast combo lines for Ana.

Last I knew Kardor was running Hulk lines and some both Hulk and Boonweaver....I find that keeping Boonweaver lines has been a solid back-up plan and seeing how there are only 5 cards at cmc 5 or greater in my list Boonweaver has plenty of room to comfortably sit in the 99.

Also with you concurring Ana is arguably better than Karador for cEDH only furthers my belief that the placement of several commander's need to be re-evaluated.

DangoDaikazoku

I was addressing Apothicate's point of putting Ana at the head of another Abzan deck and equaling its power level. Ana indeed can go right to the head of Karador ReAnimator, with IMO the result of a better deck without the need to touch the 99. As I've stated earlier the Yard hate is relevant, and more importantly it chains into wins from Pod...both are things Karador cannot do from the CZ. These two points far outweigh 1 per turn recursion, and a mana cost that is likely to not get reduced by much with all the Yard hate in the format...

You guys are attacking on the Hate bear front which also is a valid argument, but also not the one I am making. With what you guys are saying and what I am saying only further serves to prove the Mods of this list are definitely not looking at all of the placements properly, especially Ana.

Should she be in the Competitive or higher tier? Not quite, but I definitely believe she is every bit as good in some cases better than most Generals on the Hi-Power list. Ana has turn 1 wins via Reanimator, and by turn 3 is generally fully capable of going off with ease even from sub-par hands.

There really is no argument left to be had. The placement is way off and for this list to be taken seriously will need to see several adjustments....for example Jhoira of the Ghitu is placed too high, also not as powerful as Ana, but that is a different arguement.

I'd also put forth Lazav, the Multi as being higher tier than current ranking. Again that is a different argument to be addressed at a later time.

The other viable option is Tymna/Sidar. But I never turn stuff sideways so Tymna seems a little lackluster in the CZ here. Ana doesn't care about anything except hosing opposing similar strats which is pretty relevant, and chaining into Birthing Pod.

Aphoticate

Yeah, cut Karador who does not curve into a Pod win...add Ana at the Helm...deck is stronger. Pretty simple...I'd take hosing several high tier decks over garbage reanimation 1 per turn...When I win with Ana I almost have nothing in the GY worth recurring during early wins...late wins Karador is useless as the whole deck reanimates and is recurrable without wasting more mana on Karador than needed.

kdown Trophy Mage is worse...it is very specific you may only fetch an artifact with CMC 3.....Not 3 or less....this is a no-go.

So I have to say Anafenza the Foremost at tier 4/Mid-Power is laughable. She is arguably on par with Karador in the same shell, only the abilty to hose other GY decks from the CZ...not to mention she directly wins from chaining her into Birthing Pod. Even budgeted she threatens wins turn 3, non-budget we are looking at turn 1 P. HULK wins.

Absolutely by no means is she worse/less powerful than Ephara, Bruna, Freyalise, Hapatra...ect... Your way off base with this one.

Thank You for the up-vote on my Najeela Superfriends list.

Thank you for the upvote on my Lazav Combo. I'm trying to get him a spot on the tier list.

kdown I tried it and it just isn't as effective as the tutors in deck, and has no value in the GY. With running Ad Naus, Tainted Pact, and Plunge into Darkness I'm looking to hit and cast one of these. Hitting an Artifact for 1 or less cmc isn't as game winning, Phyrexian Dreadnought is a gameplan for when I have exiled my primary combo pieces or the opportunity cost is low.

Thanks for the up-vote, I have been putting tons of work into trying to get this list tight.

My List

Built mine a little more relaxed, have tons of fast combo. I like your deck. I will mash the up button.

Thank a bunch for the up-vote on Lazav. I have been working hard on the best and fastest play lines within my cureent budget.

I really don't see Zacama coming down fast enough or often enough to be Hi-Power, Samut has a better shot but turn sideways is generally not accepted as viable.