Mosswort Bridge, sorcery or instant speed?
Asked by ExpectDragons 9 years ago
Just wanted to know when i can play the card under Mosswort Bridge ? Is it only during main phases or can i play it at instant speed when i can 10 power on the field? If not then what about when i have a creature with flash under it?
There is an exception to this though. If the card exiled is a land, you would not be able to play it if you already used your land play for the turn or if it's your opponent's turn. You would still be able to activate the ability in either case, but you wouldn't be able to play that land.
July 16, 2014 12:54 p.m.
The reason for that exception is the rule which states that a "can't" will always overrule a "can"
Mosswort Bridge says you -can- play the land, because you can play whatever the exiled card was, but the rules about playing land say you -can't- on an opponent's turn or if you have used all of your land drops for the turn, so the can't wins.
July 16, 2014 12:57 p.m.
ExpectDragons says... #4
cheers, will add one into my Roon EDH deck since i can drop in a creature with a ETB effect on my opponent's turn
July 16, 2014 1:29 p.m.
PooPlayer That is incorrect. Normal casting rules still apply to the hidden card, so you can only cast it on your opponent's turn if it has flash.
July 16, 2014 2:07 p.m.
ExpectDragons says... #6
they just said i can play the card off it at instant speed?
July 16, 2014 2:09 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #7
@gimlear: The rules about casting spells are a system of permissions, not restrictions. Normally you're only able to cast a Sorcery during your turn when the stack is empty because that's all the rules give you permission to do. The activated ability of Mosswort Bridge gives you permission to cast the spell during the resolution of the ability.
July 16, 2014 3:44 p.m.
Rhadamanthus: According to this thread, which references the Lorwyn primer, timing restrictions are ignored when using the abilities of hideaway lands, except in the case of lands exiled this way.
July 17, 2014 1:10 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #9
I'm essentially saying the same thing as that thread, but in a way I think is more accurate.
Though "timing restriction" is the most common way to talk about these things, it's a bit of a misnomer. As I said, the rules about casting spells are a system of permissions. Only lands have a true restriction, as the rules about when you can play them specifically say you "can't" play them when it's not your turn or if you've already played a land this turn.
July 17, 2014 1:28 a.m.
My point is that you said normal casting rules still apply, which I read as saying you can't cast that card if it's a creature or sorcery. If that's not how you meant it, I apologize for misunderstanding what you were trying to say. It was a little confusing with the way you worded it in your first post.
My understanding from that thread is that if you activate the ability on an opponent's turn to cast a creature or sorcery exiled with it, you would still be able to cast it because the resolution of the ability allows you to ignore timing restrictions based on that card's type. If, however, there are timing restrictions in the card's text, such as only during combat, those are not ignored.
As far as the lands part goes, that's basically what I was saying earlier, just in more detail as to why that's the case.
July 17, 2014 2:05 a.m.
Now I see where I got confused. Your first post was in response to someone disagreeing with the rest of us and I didn't realize that until just now. Note to self: stay off T/O after work at 1am. Way too tired to really comprehend anything. y apologies and hopefully I didn't confuse anyone further :/
Sam_I_am says... #1
You can play it at instant speed.
Activated abilities are always at instant speed unless a specific rule or the text on the ability says otherwise.
July 16, 2014 12:40 p.m.