Shambling vents and Abzan Charm

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Posted on Oct. 13, 2015, 1:36 a.m. by Lesko21

Say I target an activated Shambling Vents with Abzan Charm giving it 2 +1/+1 counters. At EoT wouldn't the Shambling vents lose the counters due it no longer being a creature?

VampireArmy says... #2

Rules questions belong in the Q and A.


It'll turn into a land with counters but the counters will go ignored because it's no longer a creature. The next time you activate it to become a creature it'll matter

October 13, 2015 1:44 a.m.

Lesko21 says... #3

Thank you.

October 13, 2015 2:54 a.m.

EddCrawley says... #4

The same would be true if you cast a spell with Awaken, eg Ondu Rising targeting your manland (eg, Shambling Vent would be an Elemental 4/4 that taps for W/B, but if you paid 1WB, it would become a 6/7 with Lifelink.

Enchantments fall off if the target becomes invalid, +1/+1 counters do not.

October 13, 2015 7:52 a.m.

RussischerZar says... #5

Llanowar Reborn is a land that comes with a +1/+1 counter by default. Even if it doesn't have a chance to turn into a creature on it's own, it will have +1/+1 if it ever turns into one.

Earthen Arms lets you put +1/+1 counters on any permanent. You can have lands with +1/+1 counters, or enchantments, or artifacts or planeswalkers. Go wild.

October 13, 2015 8:21 a.m.

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