I was thinking...
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Posted on March 26, 2015, 2:02 a.m. by tyforthevenom
Last night I was wondering which deck would win between last standards mono black devotion and this standards top deck which then got me thinking, "what if there was a format for battling decks from different standards, from wizards PoV it encourages more people to play standard coz the decks no longer become irrelevant after rotation.
Wizards changing the way standard rotates means in a couple of rotations they could implement this idea and say it starts from battle for zendikar block and each "standard" is considered every card that was legal in standard the day before it rotates out
tyforthevenom says... #3
Actually new rotation means you get 2 blocks on top of your other block, but games right now would look like caw blade vs aristocrats etc
March 26, 2015 2:09 a.m.
tyforthevenom says... #5
Except my suggestion would be limit it to new rotation standard formats as that would clear up some confusion over deck legalities and you won't have the messed up decks we've had since blocks were first "a thing"
March 26, 2015 2:17 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
So is this just Extended? Or is it just Standard delayed by three years?
Either way, nobody is going to keep a Standard deck around to play this format. Not with the shift toward Modern/eternal investment and the changing landscape of Standard.
March 26, 2015 2:19 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #7
So do some leg work
Research up the best decks of standard and list em. Hell I bet that would make an interesting article
March 26, 2015 2:20 a.m.
tyforthevenom says... #8
It's more "battle of the standard formats" epoc, and there are plenty of people who already keep their old standard decks constructed coz they fall for that deck and can't bare to deconstruct it, ask the professor from tolarian community college his wife still has her standard aristocrats deck from standard
March 26, 2015 2:24 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
Yes, a few people may do that, but you can hardly say there are a lot of them. Given that the barrier to entry is so high for Modern and the eternal formats and that Standard is constantly changing and cards viable only in Standard drop like rocks, it's completely uneconomical to hold onto old Standard cards unless you simply don't care about funneling more money into the game. It wouldn't, as you claim it would, encourage more people to play Standard. Further, what's good in Standard is good against decks of the same era. Once you get into era vs. era, you may not even end up with the same decks that were once popular.
Your proposal might get a few players just out of nostalgia, but I can't imagine much beyond that. We also have no precedent for running one format with multiple exclusive card pools, so you'd be introducing a lot of learning complexity in that sense.
March 26, 2015 2:29 a.m.
I read an article at some point over what the third best standard deck of all time was. He had a bracket and everything; a major Standard deck from all over Magic's history, including Affinity, something involving Swans of Bryn Argoll, and Delver from DKA standard.
The article was "third best Standard deck" because the top two were Academy and Memory Jar, bar none.
March 26, 2015 2:53 a.m.
I mean there is a challenge going on currently, build your own standanrd - take a core set and any two blocks you want and build a deck.
March 26, 2015 3:18 a.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #12
@ Boza
I need to finish writing that stuff up this weekend. Thanks for the reminder. The move sidetracked me.
March 26, 2015 8:01 a.m.
Servo_Token says... #13
The Rogue Deck Builder on Youtube is trying out this idea, he currently has pitted Abzan Midrange V Mono Blue devotion, and the series so far has been very lack luster. Like, sure, just play some bad modern games. That'll be fun.
March 26, 2015 9:12 a.m.
it was never a "real" format, but wizards used to sell world championship decks that promoted this type of interaction. i assume it wasn't all that profitable if they discontinued the support.
the biggest issue i see is that once one deck is proven to be the best, there would need to be some special rules written into the format to deal with sideboarding. If all the decklists are locked in and no one can change their list to adjust to the metagame, then people will quickly find the "best deck" and there would be no reason to play anything else. there would have to be a special rule about maybe using period-specific cards to adjust your sideboard or something.
March 26, 2015 11:43 a.m.
tyforthevenom says... #15
shuflw well there will be "best decks" and each standard will likely hold cards that can be used against them (seeing how each standard tries to hold an answer to all problems that can occur)
March 26, 2015 1:16 p.m.
i'm having trouble articulating my point.
if each deck is locked in as being a top deck from its time in standard, then the decklist and sideboard would be rigid. without allowing people to adjust their decks based on the meta, then there would certainly be one deck that rises to the top as the best of the best.
wizards would certainly not design cards to cater to this format, and standard deckbuilders would still be metagaming to beat other standard decks, not decks in this alternate format. so once a deck is established as the best of the best, it could take years to unseat it, or maybe it would remain the best forever. without the ability to tweak a deck to fight the metagame, i think the format would grow stale and die pretty fast.
March 26, 2015 2:18 p.m.
it's definitely a fun topic to discuss, making lists of the top decks and arguing over a bracket style system, but as an actual format i think it would not work without at least some sort of adjustment.
for example, maybe all of the maindeck is locked in for each standard champion, but then you're allowed to adjust your sideboard using cards from that deck's standard. that could at least make things a bit more interesting.
March 26, 2015 2:21 p.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #18
OH MY GOD! HE WAS THINKING! CLAP FOR THE MAN! anyhow, just sounds like block constructed, like erabel mentioned.
March 26, 2015 9:18 p.m.
tyforthevenom says... #19
My friend, your tone is not appreciated, just because someone has a different thought process doesn't mean they don't think.
March 27, 2015 12:47 a.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #20
lol, not what I meant. look, plz dont take everything I say so seriously, I'm just messing around.
March 27, 2015 1:18 a.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #22
okay. I'll try to not act like that around you anymore.
March 27, 2015 2 p.m.
tyforthevenom says... #23
All I'm saying is an insult is an insult no matter how serious you were about it, what if I was a psychopath who killed anyone who upsets me?
March 27, 2015 2:06 p.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #24
Then I would stay far away from you and call the police.
March 27, 2015 2:20 p.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #26
true, true.... but this is the internet. I'm in my house. I have a weapon within 10 feet of me at all times.....
March 27, 2015 2:28 p.m.
tyforthevenom says... #27
This is the internet anyone who claims they have a weapon within reach is usually a child who feel secure behind their parents
erabel says... #2
This sounds like Block Constructed, but with the added bonus of another block to construct with.
March 26, 2015 2:07 a.m.