Will Mogis's Marauder trigger Tormented Hero?
Asked by potpanman 11 years ago
When Mogis's Marauder enters the battlefield and I target Tormented Hero to give it intimidate etc, will that trigger the hero's ability?
Thanks
Heroic only triggers when you cast a spell that targets them. Mogis's marauder's ability is not a spell, so heroic does not trigger.
November 24, 2013 1:48 p.m.
No it wont, for a few reasons.
Heroic reads, "whenever you cast a spell that targets X". The Mogis's Marauder itself isn't targeting the Tormented Hero and his triggered ability isn't a spell at all. But even if heroic read "spell or ability that targets X" it just so happens that Mogis's Marauder 's trigger doesn't actually target (the ability doesn't physically contain the word target.)
November 24, 2013 1:52 p.m.
GoblinsInc says... #4
Uh, JoJabi, the Mogis' ability does use the word target :P
November 24, 2013 1:53 p.m.
facepalm It does target. Ignore that last sentence haha
November 24, 2013 1:53 p.m.
@JoJaBi: Mogis's Marauder 's ability does in fact contain the word target, so it would trigger if Heroic triggered on abilities and not just spells cast.
November 24, 2013 1:55 p.m.
mowservision says... Accepted answer #7
Unfortunately it won't work. Since it's the triggered ability of Mogis's Marauder entering the battlefield that targets Tormented Hero , the heroic ability won't trigger. You have Tormented Hero on the battlefield and then cast Mogis's Marauder ; it is a creature spell on the stack, but has not entered the battlefield, so nothing is triggered. When Mogis's Marauder enters the battlefield after resolving, it is a creature permanent and its ETB triggers. For heroic to trigger, the creature with heroic needs to be targeted with spells on the stack. Hope that makes sense.
November 24, 2013 1:59 p.m.
No, the marauder's ability happens after it resolves, then you target creatures with marauders ability, so no, mogis marauder doesn't trigger heroic.
November 24, 2013 2:04 p.m.
Oh yeah, potpanman don't forget to choose the answer the best resolved your problem.
November 24, 2013 2:06 p.m.
smash10101 says... #11
potpanman, please select an answer if you think the question if fully resolved.
TheOne4221 says... #1
I don't think so, because Mogis's Marauder 's effect is an ability, not a spell. The ability targets Tormented Hero , not the Marauder itself.
November 24, 2013 1:47 p.m.