[Sudden Spoiling] with +1/+1 Counters

Asked by falconaire1238 12 years ago

What happens when you cast [Sudden Spoiling] on an opponent who has creatures that have +1/+1 counters on it? Does the creature become a 0/2 still, or does it still get the bonuses from the counters?

CptDanger says... #1

I'm not too great with layering, but in some cases it will be 0/2 in the first layer and then the +1/+1 counter is applied, making it a 1/3. Note the key words are "some cases". I'm pretty sure mafteechr knows all about layering and can tell you more about it.

November 2, 2012 7:20 p.m.

CptDanger says... #2

Oh, and linking to card names requires double brackets, not single brackets. Sudden Spoiling

November 2, 2012 7:20 p.m.

CptDanger says... #3

I found an article on the Wizards' website that may help you here: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=judge/article/20091105a

It isn't the official rules text, but it's good enough. The chart about one-fifth of the way down explains a lot. The layers you're specifically looking for in your example would be 6B and 6D I believe.

November 2, 2012 7:29 p.m.

cardcoin says... #4

The creatures become 0/2 and the +1/+1 counters will remain. Thus in your example the creature dependant on the amount of counters will be 0/2 + x/x counters.

November 2, 2012 7:41 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #5

Effects that set a P/T are always applied before other effects. Your creature will be a vanilla 0/2 base with +X/+X, where X is the number of +1/+1 counters on it.

November 2, 2012 7:50 p.m.

kingl4d says... #6

What he said. Vanilla +.

November 3, 2012 1:50 a.m.

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