Rules Phrasing Confusion

Asked by djgunn 13 years ago

I was reading through the comp rules today (btw, MTG Judge is a most excellent app for android!)... I came across this:

206.3 A spell of ability that affects cards from a particular set checks only for that set's expansion symbol. A card reprinted in the core set, or another expansion receives that set's expansion symbol. Any reprinted version of the card no longer counts as part of its original set unless it was reprinted with that set's expansion symbol.

Not that this is something I really expect to run into, but the wording of that rule confuses me. Sentence 2 and 3 seem to contradict each other. If it's reprinted, it gets the expansion symbol of it's original set, however it's ever reprinted it doesn't count as part of that set unless the previous sets symbol is on it. What?

mafteechr says... #1

A card reprinted in the core set, or another expansion receives that set's expansion symbol.

I believe you interpreted this sentence as:

If it's reprinted, it gets the expansion symbol of it's original set

Which is not what it's saying. It says that if a card is reprinted in the core set or another expansion, it receives the expansion symbol of that set, referring to the set it is reprinted in.

Hope this clears it up.

February 8, 2012 4:28 p.m.

hunter9000 says... Accepted answer #2

I believe that it's saying that a card only counts as a part of the set that is printed on the card, regardless of what other sets it is printed in. So say you activate Apocalypse ChimeMTG Card: Apocalypse Chime (lol).

If you have a creature on the battlefield that has the homelands symbol on it, and another version of the same creature that was printed in a later version, say M12. Only the homelands version would be affected, not the M12 version. (Were there even any cards worth reprinting from homelands?)

So "Any reprinted version of the card no longer counts as part of its original set unless it was reprinted with that set's expansion symbol." means that the M12 version of the card counts only as M12, not as homelands. The card with the homelands symbol only counts as part of the homelands set, not M12.

February 8, 2012 4:33 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #3

And in a similar vein, the Chronicles printing of City of BrassMTG Card: City of Brass counts as being from Arabian Nights for the purposes of City in a BottleMTG Card: City in a Bottle, and the Chronicles version of Wall of ShadowsMTG Card: Wall of Shadows has actually received errata for its expansion symbol, so it won't be destroyed by Golgothian SylexMTG Card: Golgothian Sylex.

February 8, 2012 5:52 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #4

I left out an important comment from my previous post.

Blah blah City of BrassMTG Card: City of Brass. However, the 7th or 8th Edition printing of City of BrassMTG Card: City of Brass will not be affected by City in a BottleMTG Card: City in a Bottle, because that printing doesn't have the Arabian Nights expansion symbol.

February 8, 2012 5:57 p.m.

djgunn says... #5

Ok, I got it now. It was just me reading the wording differently than it was intended. Again, not something I really expect to come up often (especially since I pretty much only play standard), but good to know, and helps me to understand the general flow and wording of the rules better.

Thanks, as always!

February 9, 2012 11:08 a.m.

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