Reduced cost with double XX in the cost
Asked by coleman984 12 years ago
How does a reduced cost with double XX in the cost work. My intution tells me that both 'X' get reduced but I am not sure.
Example Street Spasm and Goblin Electromancer .
If I had 2 red mana and 2 blue mana I could Spasm for 2 correct (with the Electromancer out)
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2
Incorrect. When determining the total cost for a spell, you take the casting cost/alternative cost, add any additional costs, then subtract any cost reductions. These reductions only apply once.
First, you determine the total cost of your spell. Street Spasm has two possible casting processes:
1) You cast Street Spasm normally. With RRUU and a Goblin Electromancer in play, you can set X=4 (you'll have to pay 5-1=4).
2) You cast Street Spasm for its alternative overload cost. With RRUU and a Goblin Electromancer in play, you can set X=1. Goblin Electromancer will take the total cost from 2RR to 1RR. When you determine X, you must use the same X value for all instances of X. You can't set one X=2 and the other X=1 and then let the cost reduction make it so you only pay 4.
September 5, 2012 11:58 p.m.
RobotsAndPuppets says... #3
I just noticed he was asking for the Overload cost; not the printed cost. My mistake.
X must be paid for twice, the reduction will occur as normal after.
RobotsAndPuppets says... #1
Yes, first you determine what X is, then reduction to cost can be made;
107.3. Many objects use the letter X as a placeholder for a number that needs to be determined. Some objects have abilities that define the value of X; the rest let their controller choose the value of X.
107.3a If a spell or activated ability has a mana cost, alternative cost, additional cost, and/or activation cost with an X, [-X], or X in it, and the value of X isnt defined by the text of that spell or ability, the controller of that spell or ability chooses and announces the value of X as part of casting the spell or activating the ability. (See rule 601, Casting Spells." While a spell is on the stack, any X in its mana cost equals the announced value. While an activated ability is on the stack, any X in its activation cost equals the announced value.
September 5, 2012 11:52 p.m.