Once I tap my Skirsdag High Priest can you stop the demon?
Asked by WalzY 12 years ago
So if I tap my Skirsdag High Priest after a creature dies for the morbid trigger, and then tap two of my creatures - if someone then destroys my Skirsdag High Priest/Unsummons it will this prevent the ability resolving and creating a demon or not?
GreatSword says... #2
Once a player activates an ability or casts a spell, that effect is now on the stack and independent of its source. Bouncing or otherwise removing the Priest would do nothing to the effect on the stack.
March 5, 2013 6:38 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #4
@alpinefroggy: That is incorrect.
112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won't affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, "Prodigal Pyromancer deals 1 damage to target creature or player") rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source because the effect needs to be divided checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it's expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.
March 5, 2013 6:41 p.m.
candlehawk says... #5
alpinefroggy has made one mistake in his statement, the ability of a permanent is not dependent on the permanent itself, the same way killing Thragtusk in response to his ETB doesn't get rid of his ETB, tapping and activating Skirsdag High Priest does not prevent his ability from resolving, as you have already paid the cost of it.
March 5, 2013 6:43 p.m.
alpinefroggy says... #6
112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won't affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, "Prodigal Pyromancer deals 1 damage to target creature or player") rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source because the effect needs to be divided checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it's expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.
Solved!
March 5, 2013 6:43 p.m.
GreatSword says... #7
Lets use our handy friend, the Comprehensive MtG Rules.
March 5, 2013 6:46 p.m.
I think it will also help WalzY to know that once you pay the cost (in this case, tapping the Skirsdag High Priest and 2 other creatures) the ability is already activated, your opponent can kill the High Priest, or any of the 2 tapped creatures and it won't matter.
Also, there is no time for your opponent to do anything before you finish paying the cost, it's not like you tap one creature and you try to tap the other and he kills it. Everything before the two dots " : " is the cost and must be paid at the same time.
I'm sorry if you already knew this, tought it would be useful.
March 5, 2013 7:58 p.m.
Thanks, no that definitely clears things up for me Kbra :)
March 5, 2013 10:24 p.m.
if you want Kbra, just say colon instead of "two dots ' : '". its easier(: not meaning to troll. I'm still learning about the stack right now and keep looking up these questions. haha
alpinefroggy says... #1
Lets use our handy friend the stack. Your creatures ability goes on the stack, then their kill spell. The kill spell resolves first and kills the source of the ability. So it is essentially countered as it had no time to resolve.
March 5, 2013 6:37 p.m.