Marchesa, the Black Rose, when she dies does she bring herself back?
Asked by carpecanum 10 years ago
If Marchesa, the Black Rose
dies she has to go to the graveyard and then her ability would not work on herself right? I am seeing posts that say she brings herself back to play.
carpecanum says... #2
I just did not believe the card would trigger before hitting the graveyard. Glad i'm the one playing her. Thanks.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
She will return herself.
603.6d Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions. Continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities must be treated specially. Leaves-the-battlefield abilities, abilities that trigger when a permanent phases out, abilities that trigger when an object that all players can see is put into a hand or library, abilities that trigger specifically when an object becomes unattached, abilities that trigger when a player loses control of an object, and abilities that trigger when a player planeswalks away from a plane will trigger based on their existence, and the appearance of objects, prior to the event rather than afterward. The game has to look back in time to determine if these abilities trigger.
Basically what this rule is saying is that an ability that triggers when something leaves the battlefield (or, in this case, dies) will check the game state immediately before the zone change to determine whether relevant abilities trigger. The end result is that Marchesa, the Black Rose can see itself dying, and its ability will trigger if Marchesa, the Black Rose had a +1/+1 counter on her.
Note that if Marchesa, the Black Rose is someone's commander, then the ability will only trigger for Marchesa, the Black Rose if that player allows Marchesa, the Black Rose to actually die rather than be put back into the command zone.
August 29, 2014 1:19 a.m.