Is phyrexian mana legal in EDH?

Asked by Glorisis1 13 years ago

Is it legal in EDH format, say in a mono green deck, to have a card with blue phyrexian mana in your deck?

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1

No. A Phyrexian mana symbol is the color of its background. For example, Gitaxian Probe 's cost is payable with either a blue mana or 2 life. It is a blue card.

107.4f Phyrexian mana symbols are colored mana symbols: W/P is white, U/P is blue, B/P is black, R/P is red, and G/P is green. A Phyrexian mana symbol represents a cost that can be paid either with one mana of its color or by paying 2 life.

September 9, 2011 1:38 a.m.

π_is_the_word says... #2

Yep, Epochalyptik is correct. Phyrexian mana still counts as normal mana when evaluating the color of the spell. You can only cast spells that are either colorless or the colors of your general.

September 9, 2011 12:29 p.m.

mafteechr says... #3

And to expand on Epochalyptik:

202.2. An object is the color or colors of the mana symbols in its mana cost, regardless of the color of its frame.

September 9, 2011 12:46 p.m.

Djmrgn says... #4

Just confirming what has been said above.

The exact reference is actually based on the edh rules, not just the mtg rules:

(under deck construction) http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php

A card's colour identity is its colour plus the colour of any mana symbols in the card's rules text. A card's colour identity is established before the game begins, and cannot be changed by game effects.The Commander's colour identity restricts what cards may appear in the deck. Details

Cards in a deck may not have any colours in their identity which are not shared with the commander of the deck. (The identity of each card in the deck must be a subset of the General's)Lands whose type includes swamp, island, plains, forest and/or mountain (e.g.: basic lands, shocklands, dual lands, Shadowmoor special-basics, etc) DO contain the corresponding mana symbol(s) as per CR 305.6. As such, while they are "colourless" they do have a colour identity and may not appear in a deck unless the Commander is of the appropriate identity.While hybrid mana symbols may be played with either colour mana, they contribute both colours to the card's colour identity. Therefore they may only be played with a Commander whose identity includes ALL of the hybrid symbols' colours.Basic land words (swamp, forest, etc) in the text box of a card do NOT represent a coloured mana symbol. They are not restricted to Commander of the same colour identity.Reminder text is not included in the colour identity of a card.
September 9, 2011 3:20 p.m.

Djmrgn says... #5

Somehow it got clipped off:

A card's colour identity is its colour plus the colour of any mana symbols in the card's rules text. A card's colour identity is established before the game begins, and cannot be changed by game effects.The Commander's colour identity restricts what cards may appear in the deck. Details

Cards in a deck may not have any colours in their identity which are not

shared with the commander of the deck. (The identity of each card in the deck must be a subset of the General's)

Lands whose type includes swamp, island, plains, forest and/or

mountain (e.g.: basic lands, shocklands, dual lands, Shadowmoor special-basics, etc) DO contain the corresponding mana symbol(s) as per CR 305.6. As such, while they are "colourless" they do have a colour identity and may not appear in a deck unless the Commander is of the appropriate identity.

While hybrid mana symbols may be played with either colour mana,

they contribute both colours to the card's colour identity. Therefore they may only be played with a Commander whose identity includes ALL of the hybrid symbols' colours.

Basic land words (swamp, forest, etc) in the text box of a card

do NOT represent a coloured mana symbol. They are not restricted to Commander of the same colour identity.

September 9, 2011 3:25 p.m.

Glorisis1 says... #6

Thanks everyone, appreciate your answers :)

September 10, 2011 2:28 a.m.

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