if you copy a spell with a kicker cost, must you pay the kicker again?
Asked by leon_raymond 14 years ago
i have a loaded Pyromancer Ascension and i play Into the Roil with its kicker cost. i get to copy Into the Roil but do i get to copy the added ability (drawing a card) for free or do i need to pay the kicker again?
melbicimni says... Accepted answer #2
I can't find the ruling right now, but you do NOT need to pay the kicker again.
Here's the oracle ruling:
If the original spell was kicked, the copy is kicked too. Other decisions made for the original spell, such as the value of X or the mode, are also copied.http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=197891
April 3, 2011 4:07 a.m.
xeratheenigma says... #3
706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object's characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The "copiable values" are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by "as . . . enters the battlefield" and "as . . . is turned face up" abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.
xeratheenigma says... #1
in short yes you will get a second kicked into the roil ill post the rules for it in a moment.
April 3, 2011 4:04 a.m.