How do Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines and Aboleth Spawn interact?

Asked by Made_Compleat 2 years ago

Alright. I'm building an EDH deck with Aboleth Spawn in it. One of the members of my playgroup has an Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines deck. Let's say that I have Spawn on the field and my opponent has Norn and then gets an ETB trigger. Do I get no triggers, one trigger, or two triggers? Please clarify.

Thanks!

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

You will get one trigger. Only the original trigger was caused by a creature entering the battlefield, so that's the only one Aboleth Spawn will trigger off of. The reasoning for this can be inferred from a rulings note from Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines' Gatherer entry about how multiple copies interact, where the additional trigger from another Norn is only added on to the original trigger, not other additional ones:

2023/02/04 If you somehow control two Elesh Norns, a permanent entering the battlefield causes abilities to trigger three times, not four. A third Elesh Norn causes abilities to trigger four times, a fourth causes abilities to trigger five times, and so on.

Elesh Norn won't shut off Aboleth Spawn's trigger because it's not being caused by a creature entering the battlefield, rather it's being caused by another triggered ability triggering.

February 15, 2023 12:05 p.m.

Made_Compleat says... #2

Wait, but wouldn't the Aboleth Spawn also copy the additional trigger from Norn because the additional trigger is still an ETB trigger?

February 15, 2023 12:14 p.m.

Made_Compleat says... #3

Oops, never mind.

February 15, 2023 12:16 p.m.

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