Hive Mind and Pact of Negation
Asked by IPyro92 13 years ago
I just played a game against Hive Mind here is what happened.
Hive Mind is on the field and it is my opponents last turn before I kill him with lethal damage. He plays no spells and I play no spells until his second main phase in which he says I play Pact of Negation (at the time I was under the impression that there were no other spells on the stack yet for it to target) and then he says I target your copy of Pact of Negation which I received from Hive Mind .
Is this a legal play or not since I felt that it wasn't but didn't have enough evidence to push the point.
Rhadamanthus says... #2
If a spell has targets, you have to be able to choose enough legal targets for it if you want to castbit, or else you can't cast it at all. If there was no spell on the stack, then there was no legal target for Pact of Negation , and your opponent was not allowed to cast it. Hive Mind triggers when a spell is cast, so the copies don't exist until after all targets for the original have been chosen.
November 19, 2011 1:07 a.m.
that wouldn't have gotten anything for him anyways. If your copy of PoN was countered you wouldn't lose the game . . .
bcurran says... Accepted answer #1
He can't play Pact of Negation without a spell on the stack to target.
But if he does play Pact, you are allowed to target his original with the copy given to you by Hive Mind. His original is still on the stack when you get your copy.
He can't target your copy because it doesn't exist at the time he plays his Pact.
November 19, 2011 12:55 a.m.