Forcefield + Guardian Seraph
Asked by RussischerZar 12 years ago
Can a Forcefield + Guardian Seraph combo reduce damage to 0?
It looks like it would. As long as you can pay the 1 for each unblocked creature. Might want to wait for clarification, though.
April 20, 2013 6:06 p.m.
Yes. This would work.
You would pay 1 per incoming attacking creature into forcefield. This would reduce their unblocked combat damage to 1 per creature. Then when damage is assigned, Guardian Seraph will reduce each of those instances of 1 damage to 0 damage.
April 20, 2013 6:21 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #4
Note that Guardian Seraph doesn't have a triggered ability. It has a replacement effect. Forcefield 's ability is also not a triggered ability; it is an activated ability. You need to activate Forcefield 's ability before combat damage would be dealt. Then, when combat damage is about to be dealt, Guardian Seraph 's replacement effect reduces that damage by 1.
April 20, 2013 6:28 p.m.
euknemarchon says... Accepted answer #5
Technically Guardian Seraph doesn't have a replacement effect; the card has a static ability that creates a continuous effect that is a prevention effect. Forcefield technically has an activated ability that creates a continuous effect that's a prevention effect.
So the way this plays out is that you activate Forcefield for each creature your opponent declares as an attacker and for which you didn't declare a blocker. That gives rise to the continuous effect that's a prevention effect that sits around "shielding" you (WotC's term, not just mine) until damage gets dealt. Guardian Seraph also has a static ability that creates a continuous effect that's a prevention effect. Once you proceed through the next steps to where damage gets dealt, both prevention affects apply, and rule 616 on the interaction of prevent/replacement effects applies. Essentially you get to pick the order in which these effects apply, so you will obviously apply Forcefield's effect first and then apply Guardian Seraph's effect. You would still have the option to pick Seraph's effect first and then Forcefield's effect, but that would be silly. So once you pick the smart order, you've effectively done what you wanted. It works; good eye for synergy.
acbooster says... #1
I would believe so. If you put the Forcefield ability on the stack above the Guardian Seraph trigger, you would reduce the damage to 1 and the Seraph would block the last 1.
April 20, 2013 6:04 p.m.