Does Overwhelming Stampede target all of my creatures?
Asked by TowerOfBad 14 years ago
Alright, so I was playing my Aura Gnarlid deck in a casual multiplayer game. Another player played a card:Horobi, Death's Wail. Playing a deck based solely on putting auras on things, this totally screwed me.
I had one chance, and that was the shiny Overwhelming Stampede in my hand. I played it, but all three other players insisted that because card:Horobi, Death's Wail was out, it killed them all.
I was under the impression that blanket effects didn't target anything. Anyway, I was outvoted so I had to let all my creatures die.
Who was right and what rules can I print out to bring with me when I play with them next
You where
Global effects don't target a specific permanent or player, they simply resolve their effects and who or whatever is in play that can be affected is.
Just show this rule to your friends next time they put you on a corner with card:Horobi, Death's Wail:
114.9a Just because an object or player is being affected by a spell or ability doesnt make that object or player a target of that spell or ability. Unless that object or player is identified by the word target in the text of that spell or ability, or the rule for that keyword ability, its not a target
March 25, 2011 4:44 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #3
There's no such technical term as "blanket ability". The one way to know whether or not a spell or ability takes targets is whether or not it uses the word "target" in its rules text. Overwhelming Stampede doesn't use the word "target" anywhere in its rules text, which means Horobi's ability doesn't interact with it.
March 25, 2011 4:45 p.m.
Another good way of telling target effects from global effect is by checking if the spell allowed you to choose who/what would be affected when you cast them.
114.1. Some spells and abilities require their controller to choose one or more targets for them. The targets are object(s), player(s), and/or zone(s) the spell or ability will affect. These targets are declared as part of the process of putting the spell or ability on the stack. The targets cant be changed except by another spell or ability that explicitly says it can do so
Notice the bold part is clear that the affected player/object must be declared, which simply you couldn't do with Overwhelming Stampede as it doesn't give you the chance to choose a specific target, but simply affects all creatures you control whether you want it or not.
March 25, 2011 5:08 p.m.
you sir...where wrongfully outvoted
overwhelming stampede doesnt target..so next time tell them to take a flyin leap
March 25, 2011 8:41 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
Just as a note, you can enchant other players' creatures. So if you really need to get rid of Horobi next time, use one of the least important enchantments in your hand and target it so that it dies to its own effect.
March 25, 2011 9:13 p.m.
Here is the official rule you can show your friends.
114.9a Just because an object or player is being affected by a spell or ability doesnt make that object or player a target of that spell or ability. Unless that object or player is identified by the word target in the text of that spell or ability, or the rule for that keyword ability, its not a target.
sanixon94 says... #1
A card usually only targets something if it specifically says target. Aura's do target because you enchant it on a target creature. Overwhelming Stampede however does not target your creatures. It's a blanket ability, and blanket abilities don't target
March 25, 2011 4:39 p.m.