Does a creature that has been flickered get summoning sickness?
Asked by bjbancroft 12 years ago
Scenario A:I have a Gryff Vanguard that has been in play for 2 turns. During my first main phase, I cast Ghostly Flicker and select it as one of my targets. Can it attack during the combat phase, or does it have summoning sickness?
Scenario B:It is my opponent's turn, and I just cast a Gryff Vanguard on my last turn. I cast Ghostly Flicker during my opponent's turn, selecting the Gryff Vanguard as one of my targets. When my next turn rolls around, will the Gryff Vanguard be able to attack?
BatmanUriah says... #2
Scenario A: When the creature gets "flickered" it enters the battlefield as a new permanent, so, yes it has summoning sickness.
Scenario B: A creature is able to attack the turn after it entered the battlefield. I'm sure someone will chime in with the rule number on that. Yes, you can attack with the Gryff Vanguard once it is your turn, after it has been flickered during your opponent's turn.
September 19, 2012 8:48 p.m.
Yes. All creatures who have entered the battlefield after its controllers last upkeep have summoning sickness. After the next upkeep for each player, each of his creatures loses summoning sickness. Additionally, if you were unsure, each permanent that leaves the battlefield loses all tokens or anything else that changed about it since it entered the battlefield. If a planeswalker re enters the battlefield without being cast, it enters with the number of counters that it says it has in the bottom right corner. essentially, a permanent reset whenever it is exiled or re enters the. hope that helps.
September 19, 2012 8:51 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
Your answer for B is not wholly correct; a permanent needs to have been under the continuous control of its current controller since that player's most recent turn began before it loses summoning sickness. Your answer appears to say that creatures lose summoning sickness on whoever's turn comes next, which isn't true. It's only really relevant for activated abilities with the tap or untap symbol in their costs.
September 19, 2012 8:53 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
@vishnarg: Creatures lose summoning sickness at the beginning of each turn (before untap), not during the upkeep. This is especially important to note in the event that an effect forces a player to skip his or her upkeep.
September 19, 2012 8:54 p.m.
BatmanUriah says... #7
So, you are saying that if a creature is flashed in on an opponent's turn, it will not be able to attack when it is then the turn of its controller?
September 19, 2012 9:01 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
No, quite the opposite. If a creature begins the turn under your control and remains under your control at all times thereafter, it will not have summoning sickness.
The discrepancy between out answers comes from the wording of your first sentence for B. "The turn after [a creature] entered the battlefield" could technically be its controller's opponent's turn. Creatures don't lose summoning sickness until the beginning of their controller's turn, not just the beginning of the next turn.
September 19, 2012 9:08 p.m.
whoops I read that wrong yeah that's what I meant... Epoch, can't you let someone else answer a question for once? some of us are trying to earn Player of the Month for the first time not freaking third.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
A: It has summoning sickness. Since it is entering the battlefield as a new permanent (blinking something resets its "memory"), it will have summoning sickness as though you just cast it.
B: Permanents lose summoning sickness when they begin their controller's turn under the control of that player and are thereafter continuously controlled by that player. In simpler terms, yes.
September 19, 2012 8:47 p.m.