Corpsejack Menace question
Asked by Markova 11 years ago
So, I'm gonna try to make a Simic/Golgari/Gruul deck, and I was wondering if this could happen to a Corpsejack Menace :
Scenario: I have 4 Menace's on the battlefield, one with 16 +1/+1 counters on it. I then Bioshift the 16 counters onto another Menace (Here's my question), giving it 32 counters because of its ability. Then another Bioshift to the third Menace, giving it 64 counters, and so on.
Would this really work? It seems like such an op combo, so I'm skeptical about it.
Thanks.
Oh, I see now it's "Creatures you control." Thought it was "This creature..."
July 2, 2013 12:54 a.m.
CallMeMOTO says... #4
Does that work? Isn't there a difference between 'move' and 'place' counters?
July 2, 2013 3:53 a.m.
Hmmm the way I took it to be, if you have four Corpsejack Menace in play at the same time and you Bioshift onto another one rather than 32 the 16 becomes 64, because each menace doubles the counters that are placed. If you place 16, the first menace allows you to place 16 more, the second allows you to place 16 more and the third 16 more and the 4th 16 more. meaning that a second bioshift would mean 64 turns into 256. And god help us, a third would make 1012. They all trigger at the same time, rather than sequentially. Meaning with four you multiply by four rather than doubling the double.
July 2, 2013 4:53 a.m.
They all trigger, but do not resolve at the same time. When the first would resolve, it would look at the number and go "ok, double that". THen the second would resolve, seeing the doubled quantity and saying "ok, double that", and so on... It effectively becomes an exponentially growth: 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, etc.
Direct from Corpsejack Menace's Gatherer page:
If you control two Corpsejack Menaces, the number of +1/+1 counters placed is four times the original number. Three Corpsejack Menaces multiplies the original number by eight, and so on
In answer to your question, CallMeMOTO, "moving" counters means removing them from one creature and placing them on another. From Bioshift's gatherer page:
To move a counter from one creature to another, the counter is removed from the first creature and placed on the second. Any abilities that care about a counter being removed or placed on a creature will apply.
July 2, 2013 8:39 a.m.
CallMeMOTO says... #7
Thanks drakanar, I'm coming from a Clix background and have only been playing since RTR prerelease. Some of the gaming terms don't overlap well, and I'm getting used to that.
GoblinsInc says... #1
Each menace applies when the counters are placed. On the first bioshift, the 16 counters turn into 32-64-128-256, 256 counters. A second bioshift would do similar to the 256.
July 2, 2013 12:51 a.m.