Can you use cards like lightning bolt on plansewalkers?

Asked by CarryOnMyWaywardSon 12 years ago

it says creature or player and my friend says that since some instants (like lightning bolt) say target creature, player, or plansewalker I cant. I just want to know if he is right and it would help if I had a bit of proof behind it (if I can use then on plansewalkers) like a wizards page.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1

You can't target planeswalkers with Lightning Bolt , since Lightning Bolt doesn't say "target planeswalker" on it.

However, you can target your opponent and then redirect the damage to a planeswalker he or she controls, as per the planeswalker redirection rule:

306.7. If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. This is a redirection effect (see rule 614.9) and is subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects (see rule 616). The opponent chooses whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied.

September 29, 2012 9:24 p.m.

RealityShock says... #2

If I recall correctly, When you target the player with the lightning bolt, you can then instead choose to deal the damage to the planeswalker; much in the same way that creatures can deal damage to a planeswalker. They target you and if they deal damage then the opposing player can choose to target you or your planeswalker. I don't have specific proof though, sorry. :/

September 29, 2012 9:25 p.m.

Jarrheadd0 says... #3

You certainly can use Lightning Bolt on a Planeswalker. Technically, what you're doing is targeting the player with the spell and redirecting the damage to the Planeswalker.

If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to an opponent, you may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker that opponent controls instead. This is a redirection effect: you choose whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied, and it's subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects. The player affected by the damage chooses the order in which to apply such effects, but the controller of the source of the damage chooses whether the damage is redirected. Note that this redirection can't be applied to combat damage.

Source: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/planeswalkers/week4

It's about halfway down the page.

September 29, 2012 9:26 p.m.

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