Are there any rules regarding shuffling your library multiple times? Mind's Desire

Asked by SmugLookingBarrel 7 years ago

Let's say I cast 19 spells in one turn and then cast Mind's Desire. The first part of Mind's Desire's rules text requires you to shuffle your library, but do I have to reshuffle my library 20 times as the Mind's Desire copies resolve? Does my opponent get to cut my library every time? And could I get a judge called on me for slow play for doing this? Could I use it to force a match to go to time?

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #1

From the rules:

701.18a: To shuffle a library or a face-down pile of cards, randomize the cards within it so that no player knows their order.

As long as no action was taken that would indicate the order of any card in the library (such as scrying between Mind's Desires) you should be able to claim that your library is shuffled without actually shuffling the cards. If your opponent disputes this, you can of course call over a judge and have them give the final say. If the judge requires you to shuffle between each Mind's Desire you cannot be called for slow play unless you start deliberately stalling (taking the required game actions is not stalling).

January 22, 2017 5:27 a.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #2

Either player, if they want, will be able to propose a shortcut that assumes no one will make any responses in-between the resolving copies of Mind's Desire that will cause the library to become un-randomized in some way. If they do, the other player will need a good reason to reject or shorten the proposed shortcut, i.e. a different decision or game action somewhere in the middle. If the proposed shortcut is rejected without a good reason and a judge is called, the judge will most likely rule that the shortcut will stand.

Intentionally slowing your pace of play in order to take advantage of the round clock is Stalling, with a penalty of disqualification from the event. Rejecting a shortcut proposal for no reason other than to burn time on the clock is not a good idea.

January 22, 2017 9:55 a.m.

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