Mishra's Factory

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Posted on May 9, 2011, 2 a.m. by KrimsonNekros

During one of the casual games during the prerelease, a friend of mine and another player had a card:Mishra's Factory. No creatures were on the field, so my friend turned his factory into a creature and swung with it. In response the defending player turned his into a creature as well, and used it to block. He then triggered it's ability to make it a 3/3 while tapping it.

To my understanding, while my friend's factory would remain blocked, neither of them would be destroyed since the second would be removed from combat by tapping it. is this correct or am i messing up the rulings?

MagnorCriol says... #2

I'm afraid you're messing up the rulings. Tapping a creature doesn't remove it from combat at all; this is a perfectly valid, and in fact encouraged, play with the Workshop. (In fact: In the recent "Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Tezzeret" deck they sold, the how-to-play sheet for the Tezz deck actually talked about this specific action to make your Factory a 3/3 blocker.)

Once a creature is declared as an attacker or a blocker, the only things that remove them from combat are A) death/destruction/exiling spells, and B) a few very specific, and narrow, effects that directly say that the creature is removed from combat.

There's not too many of those, but one common one is Regenerate - if a creature has a regeneration shield, then until the end of the turn, if it would be destroyed, instead it's tapped, all damage is removed from it, and removed from combat if it was in it.

The tapping and the removing from combat are two separate effects that both happen from regenerate, and are otherwise unrelated to each other. Also note: this only happens if it would be destroyed that turn; activating a regenerate ability in the middle of combat doesn't automatically remove a creature from combat.

May 9, 2011 2:42 a.m.

KrimsonNekros says... #3

ok thank you that answers my main question, though I forgot to post another part to this, can the attacking creature be tapped as well to pump itself?

May 9, 2011 2:45 a.m.

Jarrod_0067 says... #4

Only if the attacking creature somehow gained vigilance, or was untapped by an ability (eg. Voltaic Key )

May 9, 2011 3:02 a.m.

awesomusprime says... #5

Attacking is an action which causes the creature to tap, while blocking is not. In my mind this is a similar advantage to the Risk rule of Defender wins ties. Don't know if this would be helpful to you as well.

May 9, 2011 5:40 a.m.

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