Making set on Magic Set Editor, suggestions wanted.
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Posted on Sept. 28, 2016, 1:35 p.m. by AwezomePozzum
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So are you asking for suggestions for cards for this set you're creating?
If so, I would very much like to help.
Secondly, if my first question does apply, then could you go a little deeper into any bit of story/lore that you've thought up/written to give a little better access to help suggest card ideas?
September 28, 2016 2:31 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #5
Eiti3: I'm a terrible writer, but I've been writing down basic lore, mechanics, and notes on Miracle Templated cards given the Special rarity, so since I currently cannot access the set, I cannot give you those right now.
However, might you have some knowledge on how to import photos into my posts on TO from the camera roll of my iPad, or from the files of my PC? If I don't know how to do those I can't post the photos regardless.
September 28, 2016 3:14 p.m.
Using either an iPad or PC, so long as you have an internet connection, websites like http://imgur.com/ can upload any picture so long as you choose the right folder and picture.
Once all of them are uploaded, you can post the pictures here on the thread (probably in a spoiler or accordion to conserve space). If you don't know how to do that, you can easily right-click an image and left-click the option typically right below 'Copy Image' that says something similar to 'Copy Image Address'. Using an iPad, I believe you can just continuously hold-tap your online image and then options should open up to copy the address. Once you have that, we can continue.
Come back to this thread and in the comment box paste one of the following. Do be certain to replace "~Image Address Here~" by pasting your Image address you've previously copied.
Or...
<img src=' ~Image Address Here~ '></img>
If you're restricted by time or if I have confused you. You can just upload all the pictures to an Imgur gallery, link that gallery page to this thread and I'll go ahead and do the hard work for you.
September 28, 2016 3:31 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #7
Okay. In actuality, I already know how to copy, it was just the uploading to the web that's the problem.
It'l have to wait until tomorrow for the uploads.
September 28, 2016 4:03 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #8
I also don't know how to do spoiler text or accordions.
Sorry, T/O noob here.
September 28, 2016 4:06 p.m.
No worries, just upload the album gallery, link it here and I'll go ahead and do the hard work for you!
September 28, 2016 4:12 p.m.
hey. i'd be willing to help, but theres a few things you probably should know.
1) reinforce is already a mechanic. see Mosquito Guard for an example. you just need to change the name. also this seems like a strict upgrade to fabricate. for balance purposes you'd have to use it more sparingly and with lower numbers. fabricate was already wasn't used as much as it could have been due to its strength in limited. not sure if you care about limited, but generally speaking thats the first thing that sets build around is a balanced limited experience.
2)kahlia seems pretty close pronunciation wise to kaalia which is already a character. this one isnt super important, but Kaalia of the Vast is thematically more closely aligned with the demons than the birds. again, this isnt that big of a deal, but thought i should mention it.
3) your color balance seems off. by mixing old shards with new clans, you are skewing the strength of certain colors. as of now you have listed 4 groups that you plan to include and 3 of them include red. you can mix and match whatever groupings you want, but you need to make sure one color doesnt seem to have extra importance.
interested to see what comes next.
September 28, 2016 7:39 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #11
aholder7 Thank you for the input. It started out as a cool shit set, but now i'm actually trying to take it seriously.
As for Kahlia and Reinforce, I'm sure name changing would be good. HOWEVER, in the case of Reinforce I'm going to have a hard time finding another military-ish keyword along the lines of Bolster and Fortify.
In either case, if you want to help the set, please give me more input. You are one of 4 different people to help this project, so I'll listen to your opinions whenever possible. (One of them is in real life, not on T/O)
September 28, 2016 8:06 p.m.
for renaming reinforce you could go with "Aid", "Sustain", or "Assist" etc. i'm not sure how many cards you want to put it on, but you may need to nerf it a bit if you want to put it on any significant amount of cards or make sure your other mechanics and cards are also higher power levels. just keep that in mind for balancing purposes.
September 28, 2016 8:30 p.m.
Most of the synonyms are already taken, see Support, Bolster, Reinforce... Sustain sounds good.
To clear up the mechanic, perhaps could it be make "Sustain" X, so put X 1/1 counters or put X tokens with base power and toughness equal to the creature with sustain? Or does it only create 1/2 avens?
September 29, 2016 12:50 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #14
Sustain sounds good, but I also like Assist. We'll see.
Yeah, it might be nerfed to only make 1/1 flyers. Does that sound good?
September 29, 2016 9:26 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #15
Anyone got an idea for what should replace the name for the Aven/Dragon civilization? I'm thinking something latin or similar.
September 29, 2016 9:31 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #16
I'm thinking Culmen (literally latin for "Spire")
September 29, 2016 9:33 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #17
Alright, got it. Here's the link.
http://imgur.com/a/XBKER
Mistakes were made, so be sure to check the names and/or descriptions of the photos. I disclosed all mistakes there.
September 29, 2016 10:06 a.m.
Looks great, but there is already a card called Aven Battle Priest, and it sucks. o_O
September 29, 2016 10:12 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #19
Oh right! That piece of shit I burned all my copies of a month ago, I'll rename it to Culmen Battle Cleric or something.
September 29, 2016 10:13 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #20
Alright, I'm going AFK for a couple of hours. Cya later!
September 29, 2016 10:17 a.m.
Assist/aid/reinforce would be even stronger than your original now that they tokens fly. Also plainly speaking it still seems like fabricate. Just stronger in like every way right now.
I looked through all the card and in the link. And for the most part they wem fine. There are a few that might want rarity adjustments. Like i think I saw a ARD at C that probably should be UC. There were a few cards that's might need a few tweaks to wording to fit the proper formating in rules texts. Red felt pretty strong at a glance but with only 44 cards or so to look at it's hard to fully understand the balance. I'll post more details tomorrow when I have more access to my personal computer (right now I'm on mobile and it's a little more difficult to post long detailed posts with card references)
September 29, 2016 11:24 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #22
aholder7: They've been flyers since I concepted the mechanic, I only lowered the toughness. As for red being prominent, it was mostly because I found a lot more good demon pictures than other races. I mean, I've ran out of good aven.
Also, what do you mean by "Like i think i saw a ARD at C that probably should be UC.
September 29, 2016 12:21 p.m.
AwezomePozzum he meant a card that is at common that should probably be an uncommon.
September 29, 2016 1:23 p.m.
Your original post didn't mention flying for the tokens. So I assumed they didn't have flying.
That's fine for the red prominence comment. I can imagine it being much easier to find demon pictures than bird pictures.
The last part was meant to be "a card that was at common (C) that I think should have be an uncommon (UC)." But I'm prone to mistyping on mobile and I was too lazy to write the full words out for the rarities. My bad.
September 29, 2016 1:24 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #25
Thank you.
Sorry about that, I should have made it clearer.
What card are you saying should be a uncommon?
September 29, 2016 1:29 p.m.
Yeah, I think I may have ninja-posted aholder7 lol
September 29, 2016 1:39 p.m.
As I recall it was the "demon enthralled aven" or something like that.
It was a 2/2 flying menace with protection from white for 4. Basically it's a 2/2 that most people will never be able to block (they need two non-white fliers which don't seem very abundant as i recall). This one might have been more of a personal preference since this card has no direct comparisons. Although there are several 2/1 flying pro a color creatures at common in some old sets I'm not sure that 1 extra mana can justify the inclusion of menance and an extra toughness. But those are old cards and power creep is a thing so let me try and compare it to some newer cards. Protection has been used less and less frequently but it's usually reserved for higher rarities. Currently the only creature with protections in standard is emrakul which is a mythic. If you go back a bit further you have a few more creatures with protections but mostly rates with only 1 at uncommon and none for commons. just some food for though. Although if you plan on keeping the power level of this set high (which mechanics like aid/reinforce) then it might be more reasonable at common than I first thought.
September 29, 2016 1:56 p.m.
Psychic ninja that knew what i was thinking. I'm on to you Psycic ninja.
September 29, 2016 1:58 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #30
aholder7: Wait, it has Menace? Crap, that's not supposed to happen. I'm taming that off, but would removing that keep it playable?
September 29, 2016 2:04 p.m.
Removing menace would make it almost entirely unplayable, in a normal draft format.
September 29, 2016 2:14 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #32
Bovine073 Dang. Should we add a new evergreen keyword/make something new?
I mean, if we leave it as is it'l be kinda op for a common.
September 29, 2016 2:29 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #33
Wait what, why did I say OP? :P didn't mean to type that last line. Regardless, i'm taking 1 off the mana cost.
September 29, 2016 2:31 p.m.
A 3 CMC 2/2 flier pro white is by no means amazing, but playable for sure.
September 29, 2016 3:06 p.m.
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September 29, 2016 4:59 p.m.
In my general opinion, I believe far too many of your cards weigh a little heavily on the "I do too much" side, especially for their cost. I will not go further into detail, as I will undoubtedly start ranting, so I leave this comment for you to dwell on.
As another note, the layers of Hell/Abysses, how are you planning on merging that in with your lore? Even Nyx and the Underworld from Theros are still a bit iffy on how to get there and what is actually going on in there.
September 29, 2016 5:02 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #38
There first throught third hells are sorta like a particularly deep cave system, but in the third hell, there is a gateway into the fourth hell, which is then connected to the others.
Working on adding spoilers.
September 29, 2016 7:16 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #39
Alright added spoilers. If you want I can give a detailed description of the different hells.
September 29, 2016 7:18 p.m.
Any detailed information about ANYTHING would help everyone in helping you out.
September 29, 2016 7:38 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #41
I can't right now tho, I'm transferring the files to my computer this afternoon. I'll see you then?
AwezomePozzum says... #2
Will post pictures of the cards once I have access to them.
September 28, 2016 1:40 p.m.