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I admit the idea sounds appealing in 'regular' EDH. However I'm not sure this would justify such extremely high placement.

My opinion on Ishai;

Compared to other options in the same group, it's still underwhelming. I'd rather play Tymna + Kraum if it's for the colors.

Another issue is its relationship with Thrasios, the best partner commander out there. Part of Thras/Tymna power is that Tymna opens up 2 colors for Thras of which one is black. So does Vial smasher. Ishai opens up only 1 extra color here and that color isn't black. Sure, this pairing isn't optimal. My point is that not only is Ishai underwhelming on its own, but even if balanced with the most powerful partner commander we have, it's still underwhelming.

Again, I'm not in cEDH. Therefore I cannot state fir sure that Ishai cannot be competitive. But I myself don't see it and I would like to hear the theory behind it and maybe see a sample list.

October 18, 2018 3:12 a.m.

I too was wondering about Ishai. I mean even though I'm not into cEDH, I can't remember if I ever saw it seriously discussed as a strong pick, even in the "75%" EDH...

October 17, 2018 7:34 p.m.


I'm not a mod. But as someone who would like that myself, I'd like to share my opinion.

I don't think they will and I don't think they should.

True, as a non-cEDH player myself I'd love to see such dedication and it would be a great resource. But that would complicate the list of decks (by getting harder to navigate and to mainatin) without adding much to the discussion.

I'd rather have a well-maintained list oriented towards the top dogs of the format rather than go-wide faulty solution like the one we had before. Just my opinion though.

But if you're looking for a list for a specific general, just ask and I'm sure people here will be kind enough to direct you to a good sample list.

October 14, 2018 5:40 p.m.

Personally, I like the changes so far.

You avoided assigning tier numbers explicitly, but IMO this works like a charm. Power level descriptions are neat and you got the most important thing; one can more easily fit their deck into a category and get the feeling for the category from the description. In my opinion, this is clearer and surely will prevent some petty quabbles and solves the half-tiers problem nicely.

Hopefully more lists will be added soon and the commanders' list will get tidied up.

Great works so far, can't wait to see more!

October 11, 2018 6:08 a.m.


Very glad to hear that!

Very sad that we couldn't have been noted sooner. Just a heads up every 2-3 weeks letting us that the list is still under construction would help a lot. And, possibly, a spoiler of a kind letting us know at which phase you are atm would be really awesome.

Again, glad to hear the thing is still on. Can't wait to see the overhaul!

October 10, 2018 10:19 a.m.


Hi! Obviously I'm not Cameron but maybe I can be of help. It is true that Tasigur can win wih infijite mana by getting you all your nonland cards from gy and deck and then going into combo.

However his way your dexk is too reliant on Tasigur. Cursed Totem, Oblivion Ring or anythig of such kind can prevent your combo from going off. SP is an elegant way to effortlessly open up a way to combo off without Tas (you're already playing all the good black tutors you can, that's all you need). An added option of a value play to simply get ahead is a neat bonus that can be relevant if/when the game drags on.

October 8, 2018 12:29 p.m.


I understand your sentiment; it's far from a cEDH deck and it could never truly be one. Because whatever it would do, other commanders would do that better (Baral, JVP, Teferi...).

However the deck does really well in the so-called "75%" or "optimized" and that's my only concern, since that's what I use it for. Also, as such player, I like to see a writeup aimed at non-cEDH deck/approach/meta. Even more so for a less popular commander; if someone wants to build Kefnet, they probably aren't going all out cEDH and hopefully this would be of use to them. If people who want to build Tasigur, Teferi or Meren can have their source material (and multiple different ones at that), I don't see why a non-cEDH player interested in Kefnet shouldn't. At the time of this deck's inception (practically as AKH came out) there were next to no pure control Kefnet EDH decks (everyone I heard/saw was going voltron), I wanted to explain why I think control shell would work here. And as I played it more, it became about how such deck does work and I think myself (one of the) first who made and maintained such deck.

And lastly, this is my first EDH brew that worked out. Not only did I make this deck with zero netdecking whatsoever, it's been good to me for a year and a half. It may not be the scariest thing after partners, but the fact that I built this deck from nothing makes me proud, and to this day it has been my signature deck around the LGS no matter how many other decks I build.

October 5, 2018 2 a.m.






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