Burn down the House & Lolth, Spider Queen Interaction

Asked by MushMagic 9 months ago

Hey,

i played a game yesterday an a situation came up where my enemy had Lolth, Spider Queen with 3 loyalty counters and 3 1/1 Tokens and i played Burn Down the House. Now does lolth die at the same time as the Tokens or does she get the loyalty counters from her passive before and therefore survives? And also which mechanic is at work here? I didnt find anything in the magic rules pdf.

DreadKhan says... Accepted answer #1

I'm pretty sure they'd all die together, keep in mind that stuff like Lolth's trigger will have to use the stack iirc, meaning Lolth can die from damage before that resolves, just like the creatures.

July 24, 2023 8:12 a.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #2

They all die at the same time. A creature dying from lethal damage and a planeswalker dying from 0 or less loyalty are some of the game's "state-based actions" (SBAs) that are checked right before each time a player would get priority to take another action. In your example these SBAs get checked and executed right after Burn Down the House finishes resolving, so Lolth is already in the graveyard before her triggered ability can add any more loyalty to her.

July 24, 2023 10:51 a.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #3

MushMagic: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections that need to be made, I marked one of them as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question.

August 2, 2023 10:32 a.m.

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