Tragic Slip

Asked by albertflasher 13 years ago

The text states that [Tragic Slip] effects a creature for the entire turn. Does this mean that a creature with undying could be killed, returned and killed again by playing 1 [Tragic Slip]?

Is this card as good as i think it might be?

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1

No. When a card leaves the battlefield, it loses all memory of its existence as a permanent. If the creature targeted by Tragic Slip has undying and is killed, it will come back as a different creature. Therefore, Tragic Slip will not affect it.

January 19, 2012 3:56 p.m.

albertflasher says... #2

I believe you are correct, but this is the undying text: "Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it.)." The phrase 'return it' seems somewhat ambiguous to me.

Oh well...

January 19, 2012 4:07 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

It just means that you return the creature card to the battlefield. It doesn't count as being the same creature.

January 19, 2012 4:14 p.m.

mana191 says... #4

Creature death occurs when it changes play zones from the battlefield to the graveyard. 'Return it' causes the creature to come back from the Graveyard back to the Battlefield. It is a triggerd ability with the graveyard as the trigger and as the first responder said, it comes back into play with a clean slate... just with a +1/+1 counter on it.

The term 'until end of turn' means two things really. First, the obvious - when you reach the end of your turn and you pass, the effect wears off. Second, the less obvious - if the effect can no longer apply, it wears off. (i.e. you cannot give a creature in the graveyard a -1/-1 as it is not a legal target, nor can its effects still normally effect it)

January 19, 2012 4:18 p.m.

albertflasher says... #5

Thanks For the speedy respones!

January 19, 2012 4:25 p.m.

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