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Bearmagus:

If you need a second Minister of Pain, it is definitely something to consider. In general I wouldn't think you would need more than one outside of special circumstances, such as lots of tokens in your meta, or your playgroup packing lots of grave hate (where need to ensure a backup win condition in case Minister of Pain gets exiled).

If you only pick one, I still think Minister of Pain is the better choice, because:

  1. Minister of Pain automatically loops with itself (don't need a sac outlet, just need Meren)
  2. Minister can be used as a free sac outlet for another key creature (i.e. Mindslicer or Reclamation Sage)
  3. Single- is preferable to double-.

On the other hand, if combat is very relevant for you, or you have more sacrifice engines you need to feed, then Plague Mare might be a better meta call (though in general, imo the advantages of Minister outweigh those of Plague Mare)

July 15, 2018 1:34 a.m.

@KittyFaye

Yes it does! However consider that it only stops a small handful of our own abilities... and most importantly, the abilities it stops are all toolbox abilities and none of them are crucial to our win condition. On the other hand, it completely stops a huge number of opponent combos and win conditions (i.e. Thrasios, Triton Hero, Aetherflux Reservoir). A little bit of anti-synergy is perfectly acceptable to stop an opponent from winning the game.

June 26, 2018 1:57 a.m.

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