Ad Nauseam Doomsday Zur
Commander / EDH
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Small Change —Aug. 25, 2015
Fact or Fiction -> Notion Thief
Lim-Duls Vault -> Shadow of Doubt
Neither of the cards coming out perform to my expectations.
Fact or Fiction ends up being too expensive to use as a normal draw spell and not efficient enough as a mass draw spell. Notion Thief will take its place to allow another outlet to empty my deck when cast with windfall post ad nauseam.
The life cost on LDV is simply far too hard on the deck. I've missed shadow of doubt since I cut it previously and simply put no one expects it. No one plays around it and in a tutor heavy meta it is just as good as a counterspell.
Zur is significantly better than Oloro.
Zur vs Oloro is an argument I've had quite a few times. It comes down to the fact that Zur is a very capable back up plan if something goes awry with our primary strategy. In a situation like this Oloro is not an 'oh shit' button, he simply does not have the power to bring us back from a weak start. The life gain off Oloro is not irrelevant, but 8-10 life is just not enough to warrant losing Zur's pure power.
August 12, 2015 11:09 a.m.
In all reality they are interchangeable in this particular deck.
All the targets worth tutoring are 1 cmc or less. I don't generally find myself tutoring for rocks outside of the ones that net mana, and even that is rare. Everything else is 1 mana or less.
August 14, 2015 6:32 p.m.
papaglock19 says... #5
Can someone help clarify please, only been playing since khans block.I understand most of the combo. Your going to doomsday into the winning five draw predict on your turn predict into milling the labman. Then draw into gitprobe and LED. Then you probe, draw yawgs will and I would assume you play will put lab man into play then gitprobe for the win. But to crack LED you discard your hand, yawgs will is a sorcery so you can't respond to the trigger to play yawgs will can you? How does it work please?!?!?
Thanks!!
August 15, 2015 12:20 a.m.
papaglock19 says... #6
Only been playing sense khans block so takeout easy please and I see the combo, doomsday into the winning 5 take your turn draw the predict run that into labman mill him draw gitprobe and lED then probe into will. And then presumably play will summon labman from the yard and then git probe for the win.My confusion is lED into Yawgs will: will is a sorcery so you can't respond to the discard trigger of led to play will...can you? Unless I'm messing up the combo could someone explain please And thanks!!!
August 15, 2015 12:31 a.m.
papaglock19 says... #7
And if the combo doesn't work out how is Zur the win condition, what exactly would you be doing?
August 15, 2015 1:01 a.m.
You cast gitaxian probe will will is the top card of your deck, and then activate LED in response. So your hand will be discard ed and then you draw will. Also more than likely you will have a card draw spell in hand when you cast doomsday, so you will win the turn you cast it.
Zur is not the backup wincon, he is there to pull you back into the game by grabbing necropotence and allowing you to restock your hand.
cirion says... #1
oloro as commander meaby
August 12, 2015 9:47 a.m.