Corpsejack Menace and Devour
Asked by Mortarpod 4 years ago
Let's say that I have a Corpsejack Menace on the battlefield and cast Mycoloth, devouring Corpsejack as it comes into play.
Would Mycoloth enter with 2 +1/+1 counters on it, per its Devour 2; or would it still benefit from Corpsejack's effect and enter with 4 counters instead?
I understand that, but with Corpsejack itself leaving the battlefield, would its effect still trigger?
March 25, 2020 1:14 p.m.
manbearpig9001 says... #3
your questioning shows that you did "not" understand that. you also did not originally mention corpsejack as being one of the devoured creatures. also, corpsejack menace does not "trigger". it is not a triggered ability. it is a replacement effect that can only occur if it is on the field. if it is among the devoured creatures, its replacement effect will not take place because its no longer on the field TO take place.
March 25, 2020 1:17 p.m.
Ah, I see you mean devouring Corpsejack Menace itself. Missed that the first time.
You would not get the doubling effect if you sacrifice Corpsejack Menace to Mycoloth's Devour ability. This is because by the time you would be placing the counters on Mycoloth, Corpsejack Menace is no longer on the battlefield for its replacement effect to apply.
March 25, 2020 1:26 p.m.
manbearpig9001, Mortarpod did mention it in the first line; I just missed it, and thus misunderstood the question.
Relevant rule for why Corpsejack Menace's ability would not apply:
- 604.7. Unlike spells and other kinds of abilities, static abilities can’t use an object’s last known information for purposes of determining how their effects are applied.
Corpsejack's ability is a static ability (replacement effect), and thus in order to work, it must be on the battlefield. Devouring it means it's no longer on the battlefield for its ability to function at the appropriate time.
March 25, 2020 1:29 p.m.
Thank you very much for the clarification, Kogarashi!
As for manbearpig9001, I think you need to take a deep breath and remember that not everyone possesses a judge-level understanding of every single mechanic in the world's most complicated game.
Jumping down someone's throat like that for asking a simple question is a good way to turn off new players entirely. Instead, try having a little patience. (And also make sure you yourself understand the question being asked.)
Kogarashi says... #1
The act of entering the battlefield with a number of +1/+1 counters on it still qualifies for counters being placed, which implicates the doubling effect of Corpsejack Menace and similar cards like Doubling Season and Primal Vigor.
From the Gatherer rulings for Corpsejack Menace:
March 25, 2020 1:11 p.m.