Krallenhorde Killer

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Wolfbitten Captive  Flip

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Krallenhorde Killer

Creature — Werewolf

: This gets +4/+4 until end of turn. Activate this ability only once per turn.

At the beginning of each upkeep, if a player cast two or more spells last turn, transform Kthis.

colton815 on Riku of Two Reflections and …

6 years ago

Tyrant-Thanatos Krallenhorde Killer never "enters the battlefield".

Tyrant-Thanatos on Riku of Two Reflections and …

6 years ago

Basically it's your choice, based on what order you put the two triggers on the stack. Riku doesn't copy the creature while it's on the stack, he copies it after it enters the battlefield.

When you play Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, both effects trigger, you choose what order they go on the stack in. If Riku's effect resolves first (because you put it on the stack last) it will create a copy of Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, then Vildin-Pack Alpha  Flip will trigger off the token. Tokens can't be transformed, so it will remain a Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, and the original will transform into Krallenhorde Killer.

On the other hand, should Riku resolve second (because you put it on the stack first), it will create a copy of the already-transformed Krallenhorde Killer after Vildin-Pack Alpha  Flip resolves. Notably, again, tokens cannot transform, so a Krallenhorde Killer token will always remain in it's non-human form.

colton815 on Riku of Two Reflections and …

6 years ago

im fairly certain that Riku of Two Reflections can only create a copy of Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, because thats whats actually entering the battlefield. Riku of Two Reflections states "whenever another nontoken creature enters the battlefield", and Krallenhorde Killer never actually "enters the battlefield". it enters as a Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, and then gets flipped.

Okamaru on Riku of Two Reflections and …

6 years ago

If Riku of Two Reflections and Vildin-Pack Alpha  Flip are out and a have a Wolfbitten Captive  Flip enter the battlefield can I have Riku of Two Reflections make a copy of it's flipped side Krallenhorde Killer? or can Riku of Two Reflections only make a copy of the Wolfbitten Captive  Flip?

I'm a little shaky on how a copy effects would work on double faced cards on the stack. I know you can put the triggers on the stack anyway you want since they both are triggering when the creature enters, I'm just not sure who needs to go on the stack first to make a copy of the flipped side of the card or if it's even possible.

Thank you for your time and help!