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Nerdytimesorwhatever made a few changes based on your recommendations. Definitely open to other suggestions around counterspells and refining this list in general. Really appreciate the help!

February 27, 2021 10:50 a.m.

Nerdytimesorwhatever appreciate the feedback - got some responses for ya.

Vindicate (in my opinion) has more value in this deck as it removes any permanent without causing a loss of life that could be spent elsewhere. Anguished Unmaking is a great suggestion - now you've got me thinking about making the switch.

Illusionist's Bracers (again, personal opinion) has been pretty powerful in this deck, allowing you to tutor two enchantments at once (duh) and usually win with that interaction. I will agree, it is a bit slow/clunky for cEDH, especially with the 3 mana equip cost, but I've been able to consistently get it out turn 1/2 and have it equipped before Zur swings turn 2/3. All that aside, it is almost useless to draw into turn 4/5 unless the board gets wiped. There are a couple other targets for equipping this as well, with Dark Confidant and Hullbreacher coming to mind.

Diplomatic Immunity is usually the second enchantment I tutor out (after Necropotence of course) and has always provided additional security for Zur. It also combos well with the other equipment in this deck, and the nuances of shroud when Zur tutors out an equipment.

Daybreak Coronet , All That Glitters , and Phyresis are essentially a back-up plan for the Thoracle/TP/DC win condition. The look on an opponent's face when you swing for 20+ infect in an esper deck is always amusing as well.

Extract is almost exclusively a meta-include, with a bunch of the people I play with running Food Chain or Underworld Breach decks. Removing their win-con turn 1/2 is pretty effective.

Great point about Tainted Pact . Four Islands has never gotten in the way of it working for me, although you are absolutely right that in some cases that would stop it completely. I'll definitely have to revisit this and make some changes.

To be honest, this is the first time I've ever seen Spell Snare - need to add that ASAP.

Shimmer Myr is an excellent card, but this deck doesn't run any lines that win with artifacts aside from the obvious Isochron Scepter . Maybe I'm missing something, but most Shimmer/Zur decks focus more on artifacts than this does.

Been debating adding Necromancy or Reanimate to this list for a while - might be the time to do so.

I've got a vault copy of Mox Diamond , but am too scared to use it at the $800 price point. Proxying might be the move for that.

Miscast is another I've been debating, but haven't found a spot for it yet.

I decided to use Mystic Remora instead of Rhystic Study exclusively due to the mana cost, but that card has been floating back and forth on this list for a little while.

I threw Drannith Magistrate in here almost immediately after it was release to support the stax(ish) undertones of this deck - completely agree how absurd that card is.

Thanks again for the feedback!

February 26, 2021 4:16 p.m.

Absolutely, Nerdytimesorwhatever!

February 26, 2021 11:30 a.m.

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