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There is some really confusing ambiguity in the language of MTG.
MagicMarc: I wasn't trying to make a point about dredge, I was trying to make a point about self-mill. I was trying to say that self-mill is when you put our own cards directly from your library into your graveyard for whatever reason. Dredge (the keyword) is a peculiar case, since it is both a way to mill yourself and it is a reason to mill yourself. But I understand self-mill to be a proper superset of things like dredge, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , Stitcher's Supplier , etc.
: So basically what you call dredge (archetype) is almost what I understood self-mill to be. It seems really weird that dredge should be the proper word for it, though. It doesn't matter, it seems I am wrong. Dunning kruger strikes again.
April 9, 2021 8:46 a.m.
MagicMarc, I would say self-milling means to mill yourself, be it for reanimating, the alternative win-condition you mentioned, dredge, to play falshback/jump-start/etc. cards, and more. Is this a wrong understanding then? It doesn't seem like your definition is the one used, to give an example: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/limited-information/milling-yourself-fun-and-profit-2011-12-13
April 8, 2021 3:16 p.m.
Emyron5, Well dredge is a subset of self-mill, not he other way around! So it would make much more sense to replace dredge with self-mill, if anything.
April 8, 2021 11:39 a.m.
When I clicked on the add hub thread during deck building I got reffered to here, so I am a bit confused as to how it works.
All good comments, though. However both mill and graveyard would imply the enemy graveyard as well, so I am not too fond of that. Personally, I'd rather lose by self-milling than win by milling the opponent (no hate).
Also I would argue dredge is a form of self-milling, so personally I think self-mill would actually be a better hub than dredge!