Will Resourceful Defense remove a flying counter in time for Luminous Broodmoth to recur?
Asked by Last_Laugh 1 year ago
Self explanatory.
Resourceful Defense's first ability doesn't move counters, despite how its phrased. I'd you control two Resourceful Defenses and a creature you control dies you'll be able to put the counters on two target creatures (or double the counters on one target).
Resourceful Defense's second ability does move counters. if you activate it before the creature dies (such as in response to Murder targetting it) it won't have the counter when it dies and Luminous Broodmoth can bring it back.
May 12, 2022 11:04 a.m.
Last_Laugh says... #3
Neotrup Are you positive about the whole doesn't move counters on the first ability? That's how Reyhan, Last of the Abzan works (not moving, but making new counters), but she's worded way different.
May 12, 2022 11:47 a.m.
The first ability works like The Ozolith, which is phrased nearly identically and has this ruling:
4/17/2020: The Ozolith's first ability doesn't move counters off the creature that's left the battlefield. Rather, you put the same number of each kind of counter the creature had onto The Ozoloith. Notably, if you somehow control a second The Ozolith, each one will receive the same number and kinds of counters that were on the creature that left the battlefield. Similarly, if the creature has an ability that triggers when it leaves the battlefield that refers to the number of counters it had, that ability will use the number of counters that were on the permanent, even if The Ozolith's first ability resolves first.
This is important because once the creature dies it doesn't have counters due to having changed zones (unless it's Skullbriar, the Walking Grave) so there arent actually any counters to move.
May 12, 2022 2:49 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
Last_Laugh: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any further follow-up questions or corrections to be made, I marked one of them as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. If you still have a follow-up question, feel free to reply here with it.
Gidgetimer says... #1
No, Resourceful Defense triggers after a permanent leaves the battlefield. When the creature died it had flying.
May 12, 2022 4:29 a.m.