When does a non-creature artifact that has been turned into a creature and dies stop being a creature?

Asked by freezerboy 2 years ago

Trying to figure out if a non-creature artifact will be exiled with Gisa, Glorious Resurrector if I use Karn, Silver Golem to make it a creature and then kill it with a Kiku, Night's Flower for example. Same kind of thing if Karn makes the artifact a creature and they die to Kiku equipped with Scythe of the Wretched.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

For Gisa, yes. "Dies" is short for "going from the battlefield to the graveyard", and Gisa, Glorious Resurrector replaces the event "a creature an opponent controls would go from the battlefield to the graveyard." If Karn, Silver Golem has turned something into a creature and it would die, that's an event Gisa's first ability can replace, so the card will go to exile. It won't be returned by the second ability because that ability specifies "creature cards".

For Scythe in your specific example, it depends. Kiku, Night's Flower's activated ability doesn't interact with Scythe of the Wretched because it makes the creature deal damage to itself, but Scythe wants the equipped creature (here, Kiku) to have dealt the damage. If the creature dies in combat with Kiku then it will work fine. The other card will be returned to the battlefield because Scythe doesn't care whether it's an actual creature card.

December 6, 2021 2:20 p.m.

freezerboy says... #2

So if Kelsien, the Plague with the Scythe equipped did the damage to a Sol Ring that was transformed by Karn then it could come into play because it doesn't designate that it needs to be a "creature", but just a "card".

December 6, 2021 2:39 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #3

Yes, that's how it would work.

December 6, 2021 3:34 p.m.

freezerboy says... #4

Muwahaha...ahem. Well that should make for some very unusual interactions.

December 6, 2021 4:12 p.m.

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