Tattered Mummy vs. Lava Coil
Asked by Deathbloom 5 years ago
If a Lava Coil would be cast on a Tattered Mummy would the mummy still deal it's 2 damage to the opponent?
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PlatinumOne says... #2
nope. Lava Coil states "if that creature would die this turn, exile it instead". so the Tattered Mummy doesn't die, it is exiled.
March 4, 2019 7:06 p.m.
PlatinumOne says... #3
also, Tattered Mummy doesn't "deal damage". all damage is loss of life, but not all loss of life is damage.
March 4, 2019 7:09 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #4
Not all damage is loss of life either. There is damage to planeswalkers and creatures that doesn't result in life loss, but even all damage to players is not loss of life because infect exists.
March 5, 2019 6:51 a.m.
PlatinumOne says... #5
Gidgetimer: yes yes we know. but i would think that the damage being dealt to a player, and under normal circumstances, is already implied when stating that "all damage is loss of life".
March 5, 2019 9:29 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #6
Assuming that "we" know anything is dangerous when answering rules questions. Someone who is confused about the difference between life loss and damage may not know the times when damage isn't life loss and take you at your word that all damage is life loss. It may seem pedantic, but when someone is racing an infect deck it is pretty easy to pay over 10 life to a mana base. It is necessary to know in this case that the only result of infect damage to a player is poison counters, not life loss. It is also important to know that damage to creatures and Planeswalkers is not considered life loss for the case of life loss triggers like Exquisite Blood .
March 6, 2019 8:41 a.m.
PlatinumOne says... #7
Gidgetimer: i really dont think anyone needs told that damage to creatures or planeswalkers isn't life loss. thats obviously already. and life loss due to a mana base is irrelevant to infect. there is nothing "dangerous" about assuming "normal conditions" when referencing damage. infect is not a normal condition.
March 6, 2019 7:30 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #8
Look I have met people with all sorts of misconceptions, so I like everything to be spelled out and clear when answering rules questions. I don't like anything to be implied. But you keep assuming that people asking questions about the rules know all the intricacies of the rules outside the one specific thing they are asking and I will keep making clarifications where I think they need made.
The doubt was never if the person answering the question realized the exceptions. it was whether the person who didn't know that not all life loss was damage knew the times when damage didn't cause life loss despite the knowledgeable person in the interaction saying that all damage was life loss. It would be easier to just state "all damage to players from sources without infect causes lifeloss" than to get in this conversation. Especially since every time I see someone say an unqualified "all damage is life loss" I am going to continue to qualify it since I don't have faith that people asking rules questions know every single other rule besides the one they are asking about.
PlatinumOne says... Accepted answer #1
nope. Lava Coil states "if that creature would die this turn, exile it instead". so the Tattered Mummy doesn't die, it is exiled.
March 4, 2019 7:06 p.m.