Tapped Kalamax and Mizzix’s Mastery targeting an instant. Does it copy?
Asked by ChrisNicolella 3 years ago
So I’m brewing a Kalamax deck and I was considering the following scenario:
Kalamax, the Stormsire is tapped.
You cast Mizzix's Mastery and target an instant. Say Opt.
Do you copy Opt for casting your first instant spell for the turn or because of the wording of Mizzix's Mastery are you not casting the spell and therefore it wouldn’t be copied?
I’m asking because theoretically I’d like to overload Mizzix's Mastery, target Chandra's Ignition and cast a Twincast or some other instant speed copy spell to make Kalamax infinitely big and kill the table.
Let me know if anything needs clarification. Thank you in advance.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #2
Neotrup: Kalamax, the Stormsire only copies instant and Mizzix's Mastery is a sorcery.
Since Mizzix's Mastery allows you to cast the copies, Kalamax, the Stormsire will copy an instant from it assuming Kalamazoo is tapped and it is the first instant you cast this turn.
September 22, 2020 5:56 a.m.
CommanderOcelot says... #4
I am sorry for the late response, but the answers thus far have been incorrect. If it is too late anyway, I apologise and moderators may take appropriate actions. It showed up on my Google scouring of Mizzix's Mastery and I didn't want to leave the thread without the proper answer.
Look at the last ruling of Kalamax, the Stormsire , concerning copying cards and not spells. It mentions God-Eternal Kefnet , but it also pertains to Chandra, Pyromaster and Mizzix's Mastery , for instance.
You also would not copy Mizzix's Mastery with Kalamax, the Stormsire due to it not being an instant spell, and Kalamax, the Stormsire only copies instant spells and cares about instant spells being copied. You also do not copy the Opt that you target with Mizzix's Mastery as the first Instant you cast for the turn, due to you copying the spell right onto the stack, and not actually casting an instant spell. This is the same as copying a spell not triggering cards like Talrand, Sky Summoner .
So to summarise: no counters and no extra copies of anything, no infinite shenanigans.
Hope it cleared something up, and again - sorry for the late answer. Please do not hesitate in taking the proper action if I am too late, Mr Moderator, sir. (But if I am too late, do consider automatically locking threads rather than punishing those, who like me, found it through Google)
March 12, 2021 8:56 p.m.
CommanderOcelot says... #5
Actually, disregard the part I wrote about "casting the targeted Opt " not generating a copy. It does, if it is the first instant you cast that turn and if Kalamax, the Stormsire is tapped - my mistake. You are still casting an instant spell, from the copied card. But the act of copying the card with Mizzix's Mastery does not generate a counter.
Good thing I didn't smash in the doors and correcting people way into the future and getting things wrong to boot, eh? Correcting people incorrectly sure would be embarrassing, especially after all this time. frantically looking for the edit button
Neotrup says... #1
If you cast Mizzix's Mastery, then you'll copy that for Kalamax, the Stormsire's ability. If you overload Mizzix's Mastery you'll copy it, and the copy will exile all instant's and sorceries in your graveyard, leaving nothing for the original to do.
Now, Mizzix's Mastery does cast the copies it creates, so if you're opponent cast it with overload you could use a Dualcaster Mage to copy it for your own graveyard, then do exactly what you want with using Kalamax's trigger to copy Twincast repeatedly. You actually don't even need it overloaded as the one you cast from exile could target either Mizzix's Mastery.
Small note, Mizzix's Mastery, when overloaded, doesn't target cards in your graveyard, it will exile all instant and sorcery cards and let you choose which ones to cast when it resolves, not when you initially cast it.
September 21, 2020 11:51 p.m.