Shu Yun and Dance of the Skywise
Asked by HedronArchivist 8 years ago
If i cast Dance of the Skywise on Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest is it possible to stack his triggers in a way to make him a 5/5 flying dragon with double strike, assuming everything resolves?
It will be a 5/5 flyer, but not have double strike. It keeps it's buff from prowess but will lose the double strike when it loses all abilities.
No matter how you stack the two triggers, they go above the spell on the stack. So they will resolve before the spell.
December 15, 2015 10:15 p.m.
HedronArchivist says... #3
Ok thank you that's what I thought. So I just have play say Temur Battle Rage and let it resolve last after the prowess triggers and Dance of the Skywise for a 6/6 flying trample double-strike kung-fu dragon.
December 15, 2015 10:19 p.m.
HedronArchivist says... #4
I completely forgot the triggers resolved first that's what was throwing me off XD
December 15, 2015 10:20 p.m.
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December 15, 2015 11:13 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #6
Note:
If you have the Temur Battle Rage and Dance of the Skywise, you can cast them in a certain order to get the most out of your triggers and spells.
1) Cast Temur Battle Rage targeting Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest. Prowess Triggers (And the other ability triggers, but that's not important).
2) With the spell and prowess trigger on the stack, cast Dance of the Skywise targeting Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest. Prowess triggers again.
3) Once everything resolves, he will be a 4/4 with +2/+2 (Until EOT), and have flying, doublestrike AND trample because at the time Temur Battle Rage resolved, you controlled a creature of power 4 or greater.
December 16, 2015 1:14 a.m.
HedronArchivist says... #7
Thank you you explained it better than what I said. XD
December 16, 2015 2:42 a.m.
He will not be a 5/5. The prowess trigger will have already resolved, and then be overwritten by base power and toughness = 4/4. If it was counters it would be different.
March 22, 2017 3:01 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
@epajula: This question was correctly answered over a year ago. Effects that set a power/toughness value are always applied before other P/T-modifying effects (except characteristic-defining abilities as on Dungrove Elder). The base P/T (which is explicitly about starting P/T rather than final P/T) will be set to 4/4, then be increased to 5/5 by the temporary prowess buff.
Drilnoth says... Accepted answer #1
There is no interaction of triggers to stack here; in this scenario, Shu Yun's triggers will always resolve before Dance of the Skywise does. This will result in Shu Yun being a 5/5 with flying, but without double strike (even if you paid the mana for that). Shu Yun gains double strike and +1/+1 before the Dance resolves; when the Dance resolves, it removes all of Shu Yun's other abilities (including the double strike) and sets his base power and toughness to 4/4. This setting of power and toughness affects only his base power and toughness, so the +1/+1 he's gaining from the earlier prowess trigger continues to apply.
TL;DR: He'll be a 5/5 with flying but not double strike.
December 15, 2015 10:10 p.m.