Riku of Two Reflections and Vildin-pack alpha interaction with other werewolves

Asked by Okamaru 6 years ago

If Riku of Two Reflections and Vildin-Pack Alpha  Flip are out and a have a Wolfbitten Captive  Flip enter the battlefield can I have Riku of Two Reflections make a copy of it's flipped side Krallenhorde Killer? or can Riku of Two Reflections only make a copy of the Wolfbitten Captive  Flip?

I'm a little shaky on how a copy effects would work on double faced cards on the stack. I know you can put the triggers on the stack anyway you want since they both are triggering when the creature enters, I'm just not sure who needs to go on the stack first to make a copy of the flipped side of the card or if it's even possible.

Thank you for your time and help!

Tyrant-Thanatos says... Accepted answer #2

Basically it's your choice, based on what order you put the two triggers on the stack. Riku doesn't copy the creature while it's on the stack, he copies it after it enters the battlefield.

When you play Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, both effects trigger, you choose what order they go on the stack in. If Riku's effect resolves first (because you put it on the stack last) it will create a copy of Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, then Vildin-Pack Alpha  Flip will trigger off the token. Tokens can't be transformed, so it will remain a Wolfbitten Captive  Flip, and the original will transform into Krallenhorde Killer.

On the other hand, should Riku resolve second (because you put it on the stack first), it will create a copy of the already-transformed Krallenhorde Killer after Vildin-Pack Alpha  Flip resolves. Notably, again, tokens cannot transform, so a Krallenhorde Killer token will always remain in it's non-human form.

July 11, 2017 6:06 p.m.

Okamaru says... #4

Okay! thank you for your response! I had a feeling that it would make the non-werewolf side as a token if riku resolved second, but needed a second opinion on it because i wasn't 100% sure.

July 11, 2017 9 p.m.

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